Besides mtn hunting & youth models I like a rifle with some beef at least 7pnds.Why do whitetail hunters want rifles that are hard to shoot offhand and punish you when you shoot them.The worse rifle i ever owned was a Kimber 7mm/08 it was 5.5 pnds.Shot and handled terrible.If you look back at the classic rifles Win 70,Rem 700,Savage 110,Sav 99 all had a little beef.I want a rifle no lighter than 7pnds.I think alot newbies need to be educated on this.I just dont get it for hunting whitetails. You will always shoot a heavier rifle better offhand if you dont blieve me try two of your guns and find out.