I have never used those broadheads, but I have shot a few birds with the bow. Funny thing is that every one of them was from a treestand while I was bow hunting. From my experience it is nearly impossible to kill one from ground level with a bow...at least that is my experience. Obviously some people do it, and my hat is off to them! That is a tough hunt. Beeing in a treestand gives a bit of an advantage in sight angles, and shot angles. The first one I ever shot from a stand was skewered on the arrow sticking in the ground. It never even flopped. From the stand I will get drawn at a good time, then wait until the turkey faces me. From this angle you can put the arrow just above the breast and right into the vitals without puncturing the breast. IMO the best way to kill a turkey with a bow...except maybe the gilloutine broadhead. Good luck!