[muleskinner]

I agree with Buckshot and Bruce on this one. I really dug into this last year. 20' up a tree and shooting at a target 20 yards out translated to 3 more yards difference from ground level. This was not enough of a difference to cause a need for me to adjust my shot. I think a lot of it has to do with how fast your bow is too. Like mentioned above, practice from a stand and at a target is the only way to know for sure.

I use my range finder for marking spots before the deer come through. There is enough to do while the deer is there so I try to eliminate all aditional steps before the shot opportunity presents itself.

It is very important to remember if the shot is very steep you need to make sure you get both lungs. Visualize the arrow passing through the chest cavity to ensure a double lung hit.

 

[muleskinner]

I agree with Bruce on this. I don't worry about the distance from the base of the tree cause I'm 20 feet up! It is still a straight line measured in feet and inches, right?:wallbash: LOL

 

[muleskinner]

So, if I am understanding correctly, if I am 20 feet up a tree and range a deer at 30 yards with my range finder, (pre arch function), it's not really 30 yards? It's a strait line, how could it not be accurate? I think the arch theory is true at long distances, say 300 or 400 yards, but not 20 to 40 yards.

 

[muleskinner]

It is accurate. The question is where you should messure from. I say to be accurate on your shot you should messure 20 feet up a tree next to the deer because the diaganal line to the deer will be longer. The longer the distance the more exagerated the difference.

Why would I measure from the base of the tree if I a hunting 20 feet up?:wallbash:LOL. Since I bought a range finder I never pace off steps from the base of a tree. This maybe what is confusing everyone?:no:

 

[muleskinner]

because the angle affects the yardage. the hypotenuse of a triangle is longer than either side/leg. a2 + b2 = c2

It is less than 3 yards difference, which is not enough for my Hoyt and my increments of 10 yard pins to worry about. I don't disagree with your methodology, I'm just saying it is not enough to make a difference when shooting distances that archers normally shoot.

 

[muleskinner]

Okay, I went out and set up my 15 foot ladder stand. I put the target 20yards from the base of the tree. I then ranged it from the stand it read 23 yards. Used my 20 yard pin holding right on with no compensation and hit the mark. Moved to 30 yrds from base of tree, ranged 31 yards from the stand. Same results as at 20 yards. Moved to 40 yards from base of tree, ranged 41 at 15 feet up, same results as at 20 yards. Did not compensate, held right on the mark and the arrow landed where I was aming.

 

[muleskinner]

Yeh, I guess it would be doubled? I almost always stick around 20 feet. 30 feet up would make more of a difference.

 

[muleskinner]

use whats working for you and stick with it. confidence is your best friend.

That's the key! As long as you practice the way you'll play, it will all come together at cruch time!

 

[muleskinner]

ickle:ickle:I like BINGO. If you had gone by the range finder, 23 yards, the shot would have been high. but you went by the level distance in other words you compensated for the 23 by shooting 20 or shot lower than what you ranged from in the tree stand.:w00t::w00t:

Then what's the use in having a range finder? I can do what I have done for the last 25 years and pace it off from the base of the tree. Like I said in an earlier posting, I don't use mine for ranging deer. I mark landmarks from the ground before I hunt. 3 yards doesnt mean squat to a bow shooting 300 plus feet a second. There's barely an 1/8 inch between my 20 and 30 yard pin as it is.