[Indiana One Shot]

I ordered a Tradition Vortek from Cabela's and received it the other day. I have not shot it yet, but I like the feel of it. I got a question about the ramrod. You have to unscrew the jag from the ramrod and reverse it to push your sabot down the bore. If you are hunting and you want to take a second shot, do you have to reverse it in the field? That would take a lot of time. Or do you leave it reversed and it sticks out past the barrel ?
Also I have a Simmons 44 Mag 3x10, should use it or invest in a better scope? If so, what do you suggest? I would appreciate the help.

 

[Hunting Man]

I leave my jags on as it helps to have something to grip when fingers are cold and when you have a tight bore rifle. I really don't know if the 44 mag scope will hold up or not. Try it and see what happens. It would be plenty of scope for a muzzleloader. Just not sure of the long term durability.

 

[Muley]

Personally, I have no use for a jag while hunting. BH 209 never needs to be swabbed. I just carry a loading tip on my ramrod.

 

[Hunting Man]

Muley I wish I could say the same thing. The TC Triumph is really tight and I need all the grip I can get.

 

[frontiergander]

Huntingman - JB Bore Paste on a lightly oiled barrel and give it 60 strokes.

As for the loading/cleaning jag, anything thats plastic goes in the trash! Get a brass loading/cleaning jag.

 

[Hunting Man]

FG, worth a try to polish the bore. No plastic for me. I leave the brass jags on the flintlocks too!

 

[Muley]

The reason I don't like loading with a jag is it's designed to have a patch around it. So, it's a tighter fit than a loading tip. I find I scrape the muzzle at times with the jag if I load with it.

I know i could avoid this by being more careful, but loading a quick 2nd shot is not a time to be careful. :no:

 

[BruceBruce1959]

Second shots are often desired but with every muzzleloader there's really no quicker way to reload from one brand of muzzleloader to another.
The best advice in this situation is, make the first shot count, that ends the hassle of having to quickly reload a second round.

 

[Muley]

Of course, but where I hunt, I don't like being without a loaded gun.

Especially when bear hunting.

I don't carry a backup sidearm like some guys do.

 

[BruceBruce1959]

I understand your situation muley but no matter how you try loading them it takes a routine amount of time loading any muzzleloader, trying to do it quicker in the field usually ends up taking longer because the shooters rushing himself and fumbling with the reload items.

 

[Hunting Man]

second shot means game down and needs an ending second shot. Quick re-load only happened in warfare, we couldn't begin to equal military quickness and they weren't shooting for accuracy just bullets in the air. Cold hands, spilling powder, and dropping a couple primers is the norm for most of us.

 

[Muley]

The only reason I mentioned loading fast is because of using a jag as a loading tip. I don't load so fast that i'm going to fumble, but I might scrape the bore with a jag. I'm not as careful as i'd be at the range.

It might be different if I had to use a ball/bullet starter, but I don't need to with the Aerolite bullets. Just a twist of the bullet and they start. Then I just push it down smoothly with the ramrod.

So, if I used a jag it would be starting outside the bore with nothing to line it up. Easy to hit the bore. Easier when loading a fast (?) second shot.

 

[Hunting Man]

TC maxi-hunters go down pretty easy too. Dang sabots in the TC Triumph and the Knight Extreme are down right hard to load. I guess those CVA bores just let the bullets fall through! :whistling: Just poking a little humor, It's been a while so had to do it. I wish all rifles would load easy, it would make things a whole lot more enjoyable. Maybe I'm just getting weaker ? :surprised: How about some suggestions for the Traditions rifle. I really need to get to the range with several rifles to get them on paper.

 

[Muley]

Bullets that loaded easy in the Omega won't even start in the CVA.

 

[frontiergander]

Powerbelts, Thors in my CVA's start with my thumb and seat nicely. Even the sabots with the crush ribs load nicely.

 

[Muley]

Try a 300gr .501, and you'll put a hole in your thumb. I just sent them back to Terry for some 250gr .500.

Those .501 were loose in my Omega. Everything fit my Omega. Even the .503 FPB's. A PB was too loose. I think I got an unusual Omega. That's why I got rid of it.

 

[frontiergander]

yeah but thats what happens when they "tc" dont have a standard barrel size.

You see how that CVA shoots powerbelts! LOL probably never thought you'd get a powerbelt to shoot like that before.

 

[BruceBruce1959]

yeah but thats what happens when they "tc" dont have a standard barrel size.

You see how that CVA shoots powerbelts! LOL probably never thought you'd get a powerbelt to shoot like that before.

FrontierGander are you still trying to convince yourself that a cva muzzleloader compares to a "TC"?

HELLO, "If you set out to buy a muzzleloader and end up with a cva, HERE"S YOUR SIGN...

 

[Hunting Man]

Now that's funny BB, ickle::thumbup: Some day FG will wake up and buy TC and live happier ever after and end his torment and frustrations, but then what would he have to do all day....? Hunt, fish, enjoy life, no more tinkering. I guess a life filled with CVA on your mind all day/night must be a heavy burden to carry around. Maybe in another 10 years or so CVA will catch up???? Most likely though, your mind will have turned to mush. My advice, stop the pain and suffering now before it's too late. Have a yard sale, 3-4 for the price of 1 just to get rid of those demons.:yucky:
....Here comes the story of owning 12 TC rifles and all were junk, had to switch to CVA just to get one decent rifle, all this before his 28TH birthday. I hear it coming watch out BB :bag: my deflectors are up and on high power.

 

[frontiergander]

its obvious that some still havent learned.

Muley owns a CVA Wolf now and seems to like it. There are a ton of other people out there, half of them off my forum lol, that shoot CVA and love them.

You guys trash talk a lot but i dont ever see you guys posting any pictures about your TC's so that tells me a lot. If it aint the gun, its the shooter