[BruceBruce1959]

First off I don't own a cva or a t/c. here's my opinion.

Trading a CVA for a Thompson Center has very little gain in fact i'll go as far as to say you would be better off trading the Thompson Center for a CVA based on cost and, "depending on the models being traded of course".

CVA's explains it best when they say,
A CVA is a lot of gun for your money vs. Thompson Centers A lot of money for your gun. No truer words have ever been spoken.

one example= here's a link for product comparison of the CVA Accura and the TC Triumph

It all boils down to the shooters satisfaction, both CVA and T/C have very satisfied customers so it isn't fair to say one is better than the other simply by product name especially when you know and understand the quality, durability, cost and features of both brands.

which ever you decide on good Luck with it and happy safe hunting always.

 

[BruceBruce1959]

BB, this is one area you and I will dissagree. TC makes far and above the best muzzleloading products period. Knight rifles I thought ran a very close second followed by the rest in a decending order. Just like most things in life you generally get what you pay for. With that said, all of them will shoot. Take a look on line and see which ones hold their value better, a sign of high quality. I do get to make comparisions as I've owned several CVA, Lyman, TC muzzleloaders. I'm not bashing any makes, but you'd be hard pressed to make me a believer that TC is not #1. Spend your money wisely the first time and you'll be happy you did.:yes:

I totally agree T/C is the #1 muzzleloader on the market today but that's by popularity not necessarily due to quality or design.
Sadly they are over priced and I hope they don't but I'm afraid they're going to price themselves right out of the market especially to someone shopping on a budget.
All the others are capable of marketing good quality rifles, some with more features than T/C offers.
I think it's greed but I don't wish them any bad luck I just hope they become more affordable in the future.

 

[BruceBruce1959]

I don't read Randy Wakeman reviews any longer, I really feel bad for the people who do buy into his rhetoric.

 

[BruceBruce1959]

Savage makes a really good front stuffer without a doubt, but ronn if you know anyone that has the CVA Optima, you should ask to take a couple shots with it, I think you'll be amazed at how far CVA has come along over the years..
I'm not saying you're going ro want to replace the Savage but you will be really suprised with the new CVA Optima.

 

[BruceBruce1959]

you're probably right, bb. mine is pretty old and i see they've made some changes. its the once burned thing.

I know exactly what you mean it is very hard to recover from a sour experience...

I don't own a CVA, I did build a CVA kit years ago and it was an okay weapon
nothing to brag about thats for sure but todays CVA's are really back in the game.

 

[BruceBruce1959]

that 10 year old cva hunterbolt shoots like a $1,200 TC If not better

I'm not a TC fan :no: and I'm not a CVA fan either :no:. but FrontierGander,
I don't take enjoyment in tainting your fantasy but saying a CVA "hunterbolt" will shoot like a TC if not better is like saying
it will outshoot my Traditions pursuit and that's just plain funny. :lol: :lol:

That cva hunterbolt will do what it's suppose to do, (shoot a bullet with OK accuracy) but you cant compare it with todays Muzzleloaders NOT that hunterbolt, no way.