slug gun

BruceBruce1959 said:

according to the Facts your hunting rights aren't under attack at all, It looks to me like the state is trying to negotiate safer hunting not eliminate it.

This wasn't an isolated incident for Md. The Daycare shooting was the second incident that took place during this years hunting, On Nov. 29, two bullets hit a home near Williamsport, resulting in negligent hunting. charges against Rodney Harne, 19, of Williamsport. One bullet entered the home through a window and the other broke a garage window. Harne was also more than 150 yards from the home, police say.
No one was hurt in either incident.

I know how you feel wmi but how do you and the other hunters expect to argue it when your own (Paul Peditto, director of the DNR's Wildlife and Heritage Service.) is encouraging a ban.

Peditto said Tuesday that rather than seeking a change in state law, county officials should first consider banning firearm discharges in areas where development has made hunting with guns inappropriate.

"We're willing to continue working with the counties regarding their concerns raised by these unfortunate circumstances, but because both of these individuals have been charged with negligent hunting, it does beg the question whether changing the words in the law book would change the outcome and/or the behavior," Peditto said.

Montgomery County – On Friday, Jan. 9, the Maryland Natural Resources Police charged a Germantown man with natural resources and criminal violations. The charges are the result of an investigation that started in Sept. of 2008.

Paul K. Howell Jr., 18, of Germantown was charged with shooting on, from, or across a roadway; nighttime hunting; hunting within a safety zone; reckless endangerment; malicious destruction of property; and violating a Montgomery County weapons ordinance.

The incident started on Saturday, Sept. 27, 2008 after NRP received a report of an individual finding a hunting arrow inside his Spring Meadows Drive residence. The arrow had entered the residence through the front window and landed on a sofa inside the house. Montgomery County Police took the initial report.

A court date of Feb. 26 has been scheduled for Howell in Montgomery County District Court.

Queen Anne’s County – On Thursday, Jan. 1, at 9 a.m., the Maryland Natural Resources Police charged four individuals with exceeding the daily bag limit of Canada geese on private property near Crumpton.

Christopher W. Figiel, 50, of Millington, Harry J. Langley, 65, of Preston, Brice E. Haddaway, 19 and Kyle J. Sadowski, 18, both of Chester were charged after NRP observed the men allegedly shoot eleven geese from a blind near the intersection of Routes 290 and 544.

The daily bag limit for Canada geese is two geese per person per day. During the incident, NRP seized as evidence, three Canada geese. A court date of Feb. 11 has been scheduled for the individuals in Queen Anne’s County District Court.




You guys are in a tough situation down there in Md. It sounds like you have a whole heap of YAHOOS "UnderEdumucated" Trust Me I'd be the first person to jump onto the battle wagon where bans on hunting areas become a concern but when the area isn't a safe area to discharge a weapon It's kind of hard to argue the issue, I would give up the area rather than risk further accidents BUT I would definately fight for the area's where the ban wouldn't be necessary.

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Bruce I have read the FACTS AND YES THEY ARE! Have already been to 4 meetings on this and it is only getting worse. The Williamport deal was just a bunch of punks acting like punks. They were not hunting but the anti's have placed them amongst the hunters. Williamport is in the sticks compared to the rest of the state. In our state it is a numbers game. We have so many hunters in such a relative small area a few and I mean VERY few problems have happened. Keep in mind how many hunters versus how many issues and you will find we are probably one of the safest states around. The biggest problem is all of the librals,Anti's, and PETA people we have here making even one thing into everyone is going to die from a hunter in their own living room. They are trying to make it sound as if it is all just for safety. Well that is BS. If safety was the issue they would have banned automobiles decades ago here in this state with all the Kamikazes we have on our roads. The point is if you place MILLIONS of people in a small area you are going to have a few jackasses so what do you do penalize a half a million hunters because of 3 or 4 morons? Bottom line is they are looking for any hole they can slither through to take away our hunting rights. I should as a very good friend of mine stated "Hunting is not a right but a privilege therefore it can be taken away". Bruce have you been to Maryland? If so and if this bill would pass tell me where you would be able to hunt. How many other states would fall into this situation? Tell you what they are already targeting states such as NY,NJ,PA,ILL,FLA,VA,CA,MI,RI,DEL,etc...-----MANY MORE. All these doors have been opened over things just like this starting topic. To everyone here on this board you better pay attention to what happens here because if it passes as written they will be coming to your state too. This is your wake up call and you better not press the snooze button or you will be too late.:zzz: This whole thing is like a ladder, if they get hold of the bottom they can control its entire balance. Now with that said we are on Washington's front door. Hello is anyone listening?

Well said Hunting Man. Folks we need to realize hunting is not a "right" but a privilage, that can be taken away or put out of reach for mopst of us. As to the question of slug guns, I bought my youngest son an 870 turkey special years ago. When time came for him to move up from squirrels and rabbits to deer, I bought him a rifled choke tube and a side mount scope bracket. He shot sabotted slugs, Federals and Lightfields I believe. To this day that's the most accurate "off the shelf" slug gun I've ever seen. He could consistantly get 3" groups @ 125yds. This may be the exception rather than the rule, but I still wouldn't try shooting at game out to 175 - 200 yds with it. We don't need to confuse slug guns with rifle ranges unless the gun is designed for it, and even at that, manufacturers always present their products at the very best they will be able to perform.

No I don't agree. I believe in full prosecution of the guilty not condemning of the innocent. There is no difference between cars, guns,sticks or stones. Dead is dead and injury is injury. Therefore an accident is an accident. One is always found at fault and the other is not found guilty of being on the road.
In this case regarding the bill like all of the other crap our congress passes it has a lot of garbage that has nothing to do with the main issue. How could you view Maryland with waterfowling practically eliminated. Here it is a tradition of many generations. This bill is the first step in banning fire arms in this state. This is the intention and is well known behind the scenes. Have you heard of ripple affect? Well they are headed your way too. Having your opinion here would be the kiss of death to my 2nd amendment rights and hunting privileges. Anger is what politicians listen too. They are listening to the whining liberals and anti's aren't they? I for one am not standing on the sidelines waiting to see what happens. The NRA and SCI along with the Congressional Sportsman is here to fight it as well. I will side with them thank you.