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add the federal 338 and 6.5 creedmore rounds. I only got to see 1 dealer at the show this weekend, selling Panther arms. Its really hard to see a lot of difference in product quality with these rifles. DPMS, Stag, Rock River, ect. Cabela's has a Panther Arms DPMS model Oracle 5.56 round selling for $699.99 for the next couple of weeks? I wish I knew more about AR rifle quality between various makers. The new Remingtons are nice looking, but price is up there. I was told that ammo for the 6.8 is limited and the dealer suggested the 223. I have learned there is some suttle differences between the 223 and 5.56 rounds, something to consider and know the inter-changibility of the rounds. There is also a product offering that is a compromise that feeds both rounds as a compromise. Starts with a W... wilde or something?:wacko: