[joel the signman]

all good points.i prefer a break action 209i went low budget.cva wolf with everything and a scope it was 180$ i thinkall i needed was powder i use pryodex pellets in 50 grain size i shot a 245 greenpowerbelt and 100 grains with a 209 primer .The cva is a good low budget rifle .those TC are real nice though no argument there:yes:

 

[joel the signman]

Bp is highly corrosive supposedly the newer powder substitutes like american pioner and jim shockey gold dont require the same type of cleaning.i have never used either product so i cant say if its true or not.curious to find out

 

[joel the signman]

how true and we all seem to forget in our quest for the next best thing