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anyone using it? i bought it on impulse. you know what i mean, "OOOOH shiny!". but it looks to be a top notch peice of equipment, and looks like it will work well. but i want to know if anybody has actual experience with it.
 

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Sorry I don't looks like a gimmick to me, pricey & seems kind of long for hunting here in the thick woods of NH. If i am not using my stabilizer cam I just use a chubby hunter
but I would like to know how it works for you
 

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actually to me, from a mechanical standpoint, it looks to be pretty revolutionary. and it makes sense, and weighs a good bit that should help balance the bow and stabilize the shot. and the piston with the weights on the end only make sense. thats where the weight should be in the first place. and the piston only enhances the desired effect other stabilizers only do marginally.
 

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Don't get me wrong it does look cool & probably does work well
My point is most of the new bows are really quiet have very little string shock if any & are already very well balanced just to me it seems that there is not really a need for long heavy stabilizers any more w/ my rampage XT I don't even need one it came on the bow so I leave it there it is light & compact so I forget it is there this is of course only my opinion I am a small guy so to me the lighter the better
 

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well, my bow is a little older. its an 06 martin wildcat, and it feels so much better in my hand now with that weight out there like it is. maybe its a good solution to older bows. i dont know, but i havent shot it yet, ill let you know how it does after i do.
 

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cool well that is what is impotant How it feels & works for you
there is so much stuff out on the market & just about anything you will get some that like it & some that don't I haven't tried it so I can't say but just not my cup of tea also if you like it or not there is a review section you cloud write a review to let everyone know what you think of it may help others looking to buy one
 

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i know its all personal preferance. and when i do shoot with it ill definately do a review. i guess ive never noticed that section. oh well, but other than that, my bow shoots great. i bought it because to me it still has a twang and some vibration to it. not a whole lot, but im just trying to make it as quiet as possible. my arrows are fighting for the same hole out to 35M now that ive had enough time to practice alot, and after 35M they are still accurate enough for me, im getting about 2-3" groups out to about 45M. i tried shooting out to 60 one day just for fun, but i could hardly see my block target behind my sight. and by the way, my sight is the new fuse carbon pilot g series 5 pin. it is SWEET! to say the least.
 

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well it sounds like a nice setup if you don't already have one a string stop will help also I practice out to 70 yards & is very hard to see the target but is a lot of fun trying the review section is towards the top of the page click on hunting gear
 

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i actually do have a string stopper. its one of those front mounted deals, my bow didnt come with a rear bushing. i also have 4 monkey tails on the stings, two on the main string and one on each cable, up & down. it may sound like overkill and speed robbing, but id rather have a slow quiet bow than a blazing fast "speed" bow that sounds like a .22Mag going off. my father in law hunts with a bow thats about 20 years old, but it is deadly silent, and he always talks about his buddies with new bows shooting over 330FPS and deer jumping the string on them all the time. i tend to take a lot of advice from him, he is a very succesful hunter and his buddies are not, to say the least.
 

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Your thinking is right on. speed is not everything the deer can't tell if it was hit by an arrow going 280 or 350 dead is dead. the IBO & ATA ratings are usless & are set to the very best condition ATA is moe accurate then the IBO ratings though my xt is rated at 323FPS through ATA I am only shooting 287 avg out of mine if you read up on the ratings you have to have a 40" draw a 9 ft arrow pull 150# temp has to be between 70 -71 degrees & on the first tuesday of July to achive this rating this is far fetched of course but you get my point when I purchase a Bow most important thing for me is comfort, weight, noise & of course price any bow in my draw weight 50-60# draw for the last 20 years will kill a dear ethicly so speed is one of the least things on the priority list for me
my bow setup is the Hoyt rampage XT w/ true-glo carbon XS sight, NAP smart rest drop-away, Kwikee Kompound quiver, PSE Xweave arrows Rage 2 blade broadheads w/ burt cvoyote lumenoks
 

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Speed is not everything but im expierenced enough to be able to shoot a bow with a hard cam and have one pin zero to 40yds.The close shots i aim low.If a new bow from any manufacturer is noiser than a 20yr old bow than your setup is way outta whack.Most recreational archers should not shoot a speed bow with a hard cam and short brace height.The problem is the average archer who picks his bow up a month bfore the season wants to shoot the fastest bow.This is the worst bow for him to shoot. Hes better off with a soft cam and longer brace height which is more forgiving to inconsisent form shot after shot.
 

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my bow probably isnt really noisy, but to me it sounds noisy. that might just be because i am right behind it. i was talking to a guy at the range that was shooting right next to me and his bow was absolutely silent to me 5 feet away, but he said it sounded loud to him. either way im trying to make it more quiet. which isnt a bad thing. and like was said before, i dont care about speed, thats why bow sights have more than one pin, unless you take them off or what have you. and i said it before, id rather be shooting the slowest bow on the market as long as its quiet and accurate. and yeah, i could have bought a $1000 bow shooting 360 or faster, like the new PSE's, but they have an extremely low brace height, and i didnt even know if i was going to get into bowhunting, and if i didnt get into it i could always use it for target shooting if i was bored and id only be out $300 for the bow.
 

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Accuracy is the most important thing,you might upgrade in a couple of years to a faster bow.An arrow in the vitals is a dead deer no matter the speed.The pses you talk about have an extremly harsh draw cycle,there is huge hump before the cam rolls over.These bows are tough in cold weather.Ultimately you want to find a comprimise with a bow that gives you decent speed,forgiving brace height,and most important a grip that you like.IF you really want to advance in archery i suggest some material from len cardinale or bernie pellerite.Now is the time to learn as you are starting out before you ingrain all the bad habits most archers have.
 

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i hear ya on the accuracy thing. and a deer wont know if the arrow was shot at 250 FPS or 350. dead is dead. and i have drawn a few PSE's, they are a pretty rough draw. never shot one though. i think ill just continue buying martins or something similar.
 

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Accuracy is the most important thing,you might upgrade in a couple of years to a faster bow.An arrow in the vitals is a dead deer no matter the speed.The pses you talk about have an extremly harsh draw cycle,there is huge hump before the cam rolls over.These bows are tough in cold weather.Ultimately you want to find a comprimise with a bow that gives you decent speed,forgiving brace height,and most important a grip that you like.IF you really want to advance in archery i suggest some material from len cardinale or bernie pellerite.Now is the time to learn as you are starting out before you ingrain all the bad habits most archers have.
awww, come on.
you obviously havent shot any new PSEs lately.
 

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ive never shot a pse, and i can tell you ill probably never own one. they are too aggressive on the draw, and i hear too many people at my local shop talking about too much hand shock and being almost impossible to quiet down.
 

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spiker,
the AXES and EVOs are Xforces. and they are PSEs, as was referred to in very general terms in the statement I responded to.

I admit some of the Xforce bows have the draw cycle you described. and prior to PSEs new improvements, they were needed to achieve the bow speeds they boasted. I have a GX series bow that fits that bill. I also have an AXE 6 that has almost no noticeable draw cycle in comparison. it has a 6" brace and is dead quiet. I can shoot the AXE all day long without becoming overly fatigued.

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the biggest mistake made in judging bows is listening to too many people and letting their hype decide for you. go out and shoot the AXEs and EVOs and decide for yourself. you cant judge a bow you have never shot yourself. well, you can but you sound foolish doing it.
 

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ok, this may sound abrupt, but im not posting on this thread anymore. anyone remember why i started this? it was to get input on my new stabilizer, and now its a pissing contest between whos bow has a smoother draw cycle. i didnt even realize it till just now, but you guys can have the thread. thanks for those that di give me feedback.
 

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I have shot the pse's and the axe ,dream season arent that bad but the omen does have a harsh draw cycle.I owned an 09 x force and im very familar with pse.The bottom line is this for the average archer who shoots a month bfore the season and punches the trigger the omens,monsters,and the rest of the harsh low brace height speed bows are the wrong choices period.
 
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