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Hey,

Thanks for checking out my post. I am a relitively new hunter. I live and hunt in New Mexico. I was drawn last season for deer in Red River, NM and was able to take a decent buck with the Remington 700 in 270 I bought from walmart. I was just drawn again this season for the same area.

Ever since my first time out, I was hooked. Now I read a lot of hunting material and talk to people I meet about hunting and I have some questions. My walmart 270 came with a scope. It has the Remington "R" on it, so I'm thinking it is a private label scope, but can't find any info on it. It is a 3-9x 40. A lot of people I talk to say get a nicer scope, which I'm not against. But Is this really necessary. I took the buck @ 50 yards or so, so it wasn't much skill invovled in the shot, but I want to be really prepared this year. I have about $200 to invest in a new scope or should I just buy more ammo to practice? I only get to get out to the range a couple of times a year. If you think I should upgrade my scope, What should I get?

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Hello and welcome to the site. My best guess is you have a scope made for the Remington brand logo. Most likely a lower end Bushnel, Tasco, Simmonds, ect. The issue is, how well does it shoot? If you can put three shots into a 1" group at 100 yds without flyers, I would say stick with what you have and practice with it. If you are getting erratic patterns and have made sure all is tight then I would replace the scope. The problem is $200.00 won't get you a lot of scope anymore. You could look at Nikon Pro staff, Bushnell XLT but you may not be getting much more scope than you currently have. For another 50.00 you can find some better scopes. Tough decision. The old thought is, if it ain't broke don't fix it. You can always improve later down the road when additional funds are available. Thee only other thought is if I had a trophy buck hunt and a cheap scope let me down I'd never kick myself enough times. Good luck!
 

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Welcome to the site UH. The new scope? depends if you think the one you have will fulfill the needs you have. As you go along you will pickup little pointers and stuff that should usually guide you, but there are guys on here much wiser than I so just hang in there they'll help you.
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Nikon Prostaff, Bushnell Trophy, and Redfield Revolution scopes are all under $200 and are very good scopes. Much better than what came with the rifle I'm sure. Good rings for the scope are also a must. Here's a short list of scopes to check out -

Redfield Revolution Rifle Scope 3-9x 40mm 4-Plex Reticle Matte - MidwayUSA

Bushnell Trophy XLT Rifle Scope 3-9x 40mm Multi-X Reticle Matte - MidwayUSA

Nikon ProStaff Rifle Scope 3-9x 40mm Nikoplex Reticle Matte - MidwayUSA

Weaver 40/44 Series Rifle Scope 3-9x 40mm Dual-X Reticle Matte - MidwayUSA
 

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If your hunting spot doesn't require 300 - 500 yard shots then most likely the scope you already have will work well for you.
I would suggest shooting as often as possible to try different ammunitions, some factory ammo will shoot better than others in certain weapons.
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Thanks

Thanks for the advice. I agree I should, but I have a job, wife and three little girls who think otherwise. :surprised: I will probably get to go out once before The season starts in October. I know I will be kicking myself if the scope fails me when I'm out there. Today I dropped into my local gunstore and checked out a Leupold Rifleman 3-9x40 for $200, and a nikon Prostaff BDC reticle 3-9x50 for $209. The BDC reticle looks cool, but I'm not sure if it really works. I will make sure to check out theother scopes recommended. Any thoughts on the two I mentioned?
 

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The two scopes you looked at and mentioned are light years ahead of the one that came on your rifle, no doubt. The problem with a scope is that we don't know it's gone "south" until we miss something with it, either an animal or a target. I decided my hunting time was not worth having to worry of such bad chit.

I'd mention one other scope for you. The Leupold VXI 2-7x33. It's a step up from both the Leupold Rfileman and the Prostaff (I own all three) and iffin you order it from Cabelas, they'll ship it for free and with $25 worth of extras thrown in. :pickle:

Will you miss the difference between a high power of 9 and one of 7 ?. Simple answer, NO!
 

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It's hard for me to think Leupold has a bad scope. I have a rifleman 3x9x40, VX-2 3x9x40 and while I don't tear up the range they are great scopes. The old Redfields Widefields have never let me down either, and can be bought on E-bay for 125-160.00. I have yet to shoot the Pentax 4x12x40 on the 250 sav but the clarity seems very good. I need one more scope for the Win 88 in 308 win but not sure what? Just might be a fixed power scope! I do prefer larger obj lens for max light transmission as my eyes are not so great anymore so I tend to like 40-44 mm and you get slightly better early/late light gathering quality. These generally can use med height rings. I don't own a $1000.00 scope but wish I could have just one to put on a favorite rifle, not going to happen though! :thumbdown:
 

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I put a $100 Bushnell Trophy 3-9x40 on my dads 30-06 last year. Its a very nice scope for the money. Large field of view, clear, and good light transmission. I think I'm going to get one for my Knight KP1 .223 and my Mosin Nagant sporter I like it so much.

The only Leupold I have is a $250 2-7x33 UltimateSlam which I have on my Ruger 77/44. Its an impressive little scope and I'm very happy with it.
 

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I've always been a fan of leupold and Redfield scopes. The newer Redfield scopes went downhill in quality but I think I read somewhere that Leupold may have bought them?? I'm sure the old quality will come back if that's the case. I think I have 3 1970's Redfield scopes, 3 Weatherby Supremes made by???, couple of Leupolds, Pentax, Tasco, no Bushnell's, Nikon's yet. Burris is another quality scope. Only have had one failure and that was a Tasco on the TC FireHwak after 11 years or so on a $70.00 scope. I can't complain too much.
 

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I put the Leupold rifleman on my TC triumph, I hope it holds up to the 50 cal. I wouldn't know how to rate the new Redfields against the lower end Leupolds, maybe others have a good field report.
 

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I have had great luck w/ the cheaper Simmons I think I paid under $100 for it like 15 Years ago that was on my .270 since the day I bought it
It finally broke on me last year & had been through a lot of torture over the years. I will agree with HM on this
If it works don't fix it
I feel if the scope is working properly then practice is more important
 

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If it ain't broke - don't fix it!

Try taking current combination out to a range that has a 150 - 200 yard target (hard to find!) and see how well the rifle/scope do. If you can't find one of those 'distance' target ranges, then the advice of everyone else will do just fine - 1" groups at 100 yds and you'll have no problems with further distances.

But then again - I'm cheap and can't see spending $$ if you don't have to. My $0.02 worth.
 

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Everyone else has thrown in their 2 cents, here's mine

The bundled scopes in packages are garbage. I was being nice calling them that. I always tell anyone that I am helping buy a rifle that you need to spend 200-250 for a decent scope. Can you go all over the world with that 25-50 dollar scope and hunt- yes you could. Would anyone recommend that you trust that cheap scope -no. It worked and you got a nice Deer be happy that it got you through your first season, it's upgrade time. I also recommend the Nikon or Redfield in your 200-250 price range. Are there better scopes for more say 400-2500 dollars- yes. Would you get a scope 10x better then the 200 dollar one- no. The absolute top of the line are clearer and are more precise but the 200-250 will get you atleast 90% of the way there and will br a lot less out of your checking account. One note on reticles, the crosshairs you see looking at through the scope. I know that Nikon are really pushing their BDC reticle. I love my Nikon scopes and recommend the brand but I would stay with a standard plex reticle unless you are going to be doing a lot of 200, 300, or 400 yard shooting. Your 270 is a great caliber and if you sight it in a couple of inches high at 100 yards just aim for the lungs just behind the front leg. On any shot up to say 300 yards your 270 will drop them right in. It always suprises me how many shooters don't understand that the scope on a rifle is just as important as the rifle it is mounted on. The quality of the trigger on the rifle is also important but that is for another post....

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Go on E-bay and watch for good deals on a scope. You can find pretty good prices on used Leupold vx ll in your price range easy. It's a lot of scope for the money. Still hard to beat a 3x9x40 for the 270 win cal.
 

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HuntingMan makes a great point with his post

You have the option of buying used online and saving a lot. I would probibly try to get a Leopold VXIII 2.5x8 for a great price if I bought used. This is a 400.00 dollar scope and I wouldn't be surprised to see it go for 250.xx. Something to remember about all Leopolds is there lifetime warrantee. It is no charge whoever owns it not just the original person that bought it. So if you later find that there was a problem with it you call them and they give you the instructions to send it back. If they can't fix it easily they just send out a new scope of the same model no charge. I own two of the VXIII scopes and have not ever had a problem with them. I expect the scopes to last a lifetime.

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