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I'm new(er) to deer hunting, with a rifle that is. I am looking for a good rifle with less recoil but packs a lot of punch. I have been reading that the 30/30 Winchester and the 7mm-08 Remington are both good choices. I have also read that the 30/30 is better for shorter range shooting and the 7mm-08 can cover both short and longer range (>200yd) shots with ease. Are either of these good choices? I am about 6'1" and 200lbs so I am pretty sure I would be ok handling them.

I also know that the gr of the ammo and the weight of the gun also has a lot to do with things. Any help is appreciated!
 

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Welcome to the forum, we will offer our recommendations

In the past, most new hunters started with the 30-30 in a lever action rifle using iron sights. I always recommend that a new shooter/hunter start with a scoped bolt action rifle in a standard caliber. You could handle any of the standard calibers .308win, .270win, 30-06 without a problem. If you want a little less recoil than the standard ones the 7mm-08 is a wonderful Deer chambering. It will kick less than the .308win which is its parent case and fly flatter in the process. At one time the .243 was considered the perfect rifle for someone recoil sensitive, I think the 7mm-08 has taken over that slot. It is capable of better performance without any downside. The only advantage the .308 would have is if you forget your ammo, any Mom and Pop store that sells rifle ammo in Deer Hunting country stock it. The 7mm-08 while popular is not as popular as the trio 308,270,30-06. It is usally said that the 140gr loading for the 7mm-08 is the standard choice for Deer, companies also like to offer it in either 145gr or 150gr. Rifles have a mind of their own and if I was to buy one in 7mm-08 I would try it in 140gr and then one of the others to see if it prefered
heavier bullets. The Deer won't know the difference between any of the three from 0-200 yards. Try to save around 150.xx from your budget for a quality scope, you won't regret quality optics. Besides a good trigger I have to have a quality scope. You can't kill it if you can't see it. You owe it to the Deer to kill it clean and that takes a good trigger. I know some really smart Members are going to chime in with their input, enjoy...

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Here's my answer that sticks to the choices you gave in your post. I would highly recommend the 7mm-08 over the 30/30. In spite of it's history and the fact that it probably has taken as much, or more, game than any other caliber, the 30/30 just doesn't measure up to most "modern" cartridges. The 7mm-08 is MUCH flatter-shooting, exceedingly more accurate, has more power, with a much longer range capability, and is very reasonable on recoil. I don't own one, but my favorite rifle, that I have used for over 20 years, is a very close match - .280 Rem. It shoots the same .284 bullet at a slightly faster velocity than the '08, but not that much. With that bullet, I have killed cow and bull elk, antelope, and deer at ranges from 15 yards to about 400. I would not have been able to kill half those animals if I were shooting a 30/30. Get the 7mm-08.
 

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of the two, 7mm-08 hands down no comparison. However, there are so many bullets to look at that I'd slow down my decision and take a look at several before I'd make my choise.
 

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Too many decisions

I personally like the 30-06. It does kick a little. I am 17 and about 125 pounds. I can handle it just fine! If our that worried about the recoil then Remington makes managed recoil rounds. It can also be used for anything in north America chug makes it a very vecitile gun. Also you can't go wrong with a .270. Best of luck with your decision

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Thanks everyone for their thoughts and opinions. I went with a 7mm-08 Savage in bolt action. Should be getting it in a couple of days and I will let everyone know how it turns out. I should have an opportunity to get some practice time in with it in the next few weeks. Thanks again!
 

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Congrats on the new Savage--

Which model did you decide on, and what scope are you placing on it?
We really like pictures if possible.

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Great round choice its been said the best for game under 600lbs.Good luck with your purchase i own three savages and i know it ll shoot.
 
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Went with a Savage Axis bolt action synthetic black. It is coming with a scope already mounted and bore sighted, so how the scope performs is yet to be determined. I should be getting in from the dealer in the next day or two, so I will throw out some pics when I get it.
 

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Personal opinion here, you should have spent the extra few $$ and gone with the Model 10 (I think) instead of the Axis. You get sooo much more bang for the buck with the Model 10 (sorry for the bad pun).

But you should still be quite satisfied with the choice you made. Savage makes a quality product. I know, have two of them in the house. (Had three, but gave one to one of my daughters)

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I would have chose a different model Savage...

I also don't like some of the corners that Savage cut with the new Axis. I don't know what the price difference was between the Axis and the Savage model 10. If you can't change your purchess I hope that it performs well for you. The Deer won't know the difference, but you may regret having not spent the additional dollars for a different model.

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Entry level firearms have a purpose, everyone has to start somewhere and move up as budgets allow. I hope your purchase is a sound one and you are very happy with it. Stick around and I'll have you shooting something really nice and it is a Savage and has a 99 name on it! :thumbup:
 

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Entry level firearms have a purpose, everyone has to start somewhere and move up as budgets allow. I hope your purchase is a sound one and you are very happy with it. Stick around and I'll have you shooting something really nice and it is a Savage and has a 99 name on it! :thumbup:
thats a fact.I started out with a old single shot 12ga,then a pump,to a old winchester 30-30 to now Im shooting a browning A-bolt.But i must say that old winchester 30-30 as taken many a deer with me and Ill still grab her and head to the woods now and then. Get the best you can afford and move up as you can.A fancy rifle dont make a hunter
 

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Karl I have to keep the old stuff current. As soon as I can get to the range with the 1961 Win 88 I hope to report decent 100 yd groups. The Sav 99's all shoot well and are simply a joy to hunt with. My nephew took his first buck with my 300 sav, he has taken a liking to it. Nobody gets to hunt with the 250-3000 except it's owner :whistling: I would love to meet up with a couple hunters shooting a few old rifles on a great hunt somewhere. Gun Broker has a near perfect Savage 99 R model, price is also going out the roof. These things are truly treasured by collectors and hunters alike.
 

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Beautiful Guns Hm.That 88 was the first high powered rifle i ever shot in 308 buddies father had one.I agree and wish he could of ponied up a little more cash for the 110.With the 110 you upgrade because you want to not because of need.Most shoot good enough for a lifetime of great service.
 

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Here's a shot of the two Savage 99's. The top is the 300, middle is the 250-3000, and the bottom is the Win 88 in 308.
Not to hijack this thread, but do you know if Winchester ever made any pump centerfire rifles? I was talking to an Inuit friend of mine and he was telling me he shot his first moose with a Winchester pump rifle in 270, but he couldn't remember the model number of the gun. I can't seem to find anything on google either.
 
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