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I just leased 168 acres back in Novemeber. There are countless places for food plots. The property is in SE Ohio. Was heavily timbered 10 years ago and about half of it is cow pasture. The timbered areas seem to be a perferred bedding area. There isn't any food sources that hold the deer on the property most of them are at the neighboring been field. I have herd clover is not a good plot for holding the deer in the fall. Any advice will be helpful.:smile:
 

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hello, I only have about 5 years experience in food plots so I'm just learning. I do plant one plot in an old cow pasture with a mix of clover/chicory, and another plot in a tri-blend of clover/chicory/brassicas. I get most of my seeds from local feed store as I can't see any difference in production of the expensive seeds designed for deer. The deer do mow it down faster than it can grow but I figure their getting something with 25-35 % protien. One thing I can tell you is kill the plot in early spring with round-up then 3 weeks later plow/disk/fertilize/plant. Weeds will invade and take over the plot if you don't kill it first. Clover works well in moist soils, where chicory grows with less moisture Brassicas(which are large turnup type plants) seem to need more moisture than chicory. Deer love chicory! This is fun for me and gets back to hunting camp more often. I spent about $300.00 to plant two plots that total 1 3/4 acres . Hope you find some help from this.
 

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Everyone gets an opinion; I know they work from experience. When you have a poor nutrition enviroment and you plant better nutritional food sources they will come and be better for it. Sorry to have a different opinion but when my fields are mowed down by the deer, turkeys and bear I know they work. I intend to enlarge the two food plots this year. We're trying to lease another 126 acres that has about 50 acres of hillside plantable ground. I plan to plant in rows leaving high scrub in between the planted rows.
 

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ive only planted small plots so i cant offer too much .however i would suggest that since the other property is allready planted maybe you should manage your property as a bedding .staging area.then you can set up stands to intercept them en route to the food
 

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Thanks for sending your thoughts. It certainly helps. I thought abought keeping it a bedding area but last year the deer seemed to bed right next to where they were eating which was not on my lease. I think it will be worth the effort to put in the plots to hold the deer on my lease.
 

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i had good success using those minerals you get from whitetail institute .the deer and bear gobbled it up.best of luck ta ya.ya need a hand setting it up?where do you live again:whistling:
 

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I heard sugar beets are really good for after the first frost. You might want to check in on them. Beans are only good around here until they turn yellow then the deer won't touch them.
 

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By us there are food plots all over,everywhere you look there is one so why would we want to put in another, the best thing I think is to have some kind of cover for the deer and possibly a small water source, that way you can catch the deer going between the food and bedding areas.
 

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I had to slip that in there after my first post to clarify what I meant cuz I dont think food plots are bad,but there is a place for them Just not everywhere you look.
 

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Lucky for me no other property owners are doing food plots. The deer in north central PA need all the help they can get. There is not much farming anymore and old groth timber doesn't allow undergrowth to get started. I can't imagine hunting where every property has multiple food plots. If that were the case I'd have to do some serious thinking as to what I would do with my property. Plant something different, plant for bedding/refuse? Hmmm????
 

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I read a good article on them last night. It said only 5% of your property should be in food plots. Too many might make it hard to pattern the deer. Around me the power company took back all the land they use to lease to farmers and planted thousands of acres of pine trees. I need something to get them out of the pines.
 

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Good Luck trying to pull them Deer out of them Pines, You can bet that after feeding throughout the night
with full bellies them Pines are mighty comfortable for those deer.
That's a tough situation for you because, we all know how locked in deer can get with those Pines and
I really don't know of any way to lure them out, the Best advice I could offer would be to pray hard for a
Doe in heat to lead them out during the day when she needs to feed.
Good Luck
As far as food plots, I kinda agree with critter gitter where he mentions water sources.
If all the surrounding lots have plots, how's yours going to make a difference??
 

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One thing we haven't discussed is are you hunting over your food plots? We do not hunt the food plots as they are for nutrition. Hunting over the food plots might be close to baiting ( I know the legal description, this is an ethics question). We tend to hunt bucks which aren't going to be caught in the food plots during daylight hours anyway, even during the rut. I hunt nearly 1/4 to 1/2 mile away from the food plots utalizing natural funnels and known buck travel routes. So maybe I differ in why I plant crops vs others who are trying to lure deer into shooting range. Thought I was seeing a pattern on some of the responces on food crops and the reasons for planting them. We also have a thick stand of hemlocks that borders mountain laural patches which we don't hunt to allow a safety zone for the deer.
 

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One thing we haven't discussed is are you hunting over your food plots? We do not hunt the food plots as they are for nutrition. Hunting over the food plots might be close to baiting ( I know the legal description, this is an ethics question). We tend to hunt bucks which aren't going to be caught in the food plots during daylight hours anyway, even during the rut. I hunt nearly 1/4 to 1/2 mile away from the food plots utalizing natural funnels and known buck travel routes. So maybe I differ in why I plant crops vs others who are trying to lure deer into shooting range. Thought I was seeing a pattern on some of the responces on food crops and the reasons for planting them. We also have a thick stand of hemlocks that borders mountain laural patches which we don't hunt to allow a safety zone for the deer.

Good advice here. I guess I never thought of it this way. Your reply will definately help me decide on the location of the food plot. And now plan on planting a refuge plot that I will not disturb.
 

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If you can plant nutrition and safety zones the deer will come. I hunt in PA where there are a lot of hunters but very few food plots. The deer know how to get from food to safety very well. There are new products now that create food and safety. These tend to grow high enough for the deer to crawl under, but have to be re-planted each year. I try to catch the rutting bucks traveling in known routes ie. rub/scrape lines around these areas looking for does who tend to stay close to both bedding/food areas. No real secret here but it works.
 

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Update on Deer food Plot help

I just saw you posted this thread a long time ago. Did you manage to get something planted yet? Let me know, maybe I can help. I have some good fall planting combo's I have used. You are in Zone 5 right? Love Plots: and yes I agree, anything overdone is poor and doesn't give you any advantage if everyone is doing it, that is unless of coarse they are doing it badly:)
But they do have their place if done well.
Dr. J
 

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Based on my recent surgery I could not plant this year. Currently the plots are being killed and buckwheat is going to be planted for this fall. I could use any help on good plant mixes for North Central PA. I've tried just about everything. brassica's do well but only last 1 year. Need something to last several years???
 
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