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Southern Man

Discussion Starter · Jul 18, 2010

On that trek you made up over that mountain where the big boys roam, how stable are the core areas of bucks in NH? Or are they kind of nomadic in nature? Down here they are pretty well loyal to their core areas and it seems you almost need a bulldozer to push them out of it. But we have a kazillion more deer than yall do up there. So I was wonderin with the low deer numbers you have if it tends to make the bucks unstable as far as their core areas?

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· #2 · Jul 18, 2010

its my opinion, and only an opinion, that the core areas aren't as clearly defined as in less forested parts of the country. Feeding areas are clearly defined, oak flats, beech groves, apple orchards, etc. bedding areas are not as clearly defined. with so much cover they can and do bed anywhere even in the feeding areas. there is nothing saying they will feed here today though. nothing stopping them from going to a different area to feed. big bucks, old school named ridge runners, cover some ground. even the pods of does will be here for a couple days, then gone for 3 to 7 days then back again. yea sometimes deer just stay in a spot but not often. I think they got the ridge runners named because from the top of a mountain its drop off this way or that and nearer the bottom is a long way away from the other drop off line. ya know what i mean. so it could be days, and often is, before they are back in an area. now add in factors like hunters bumping them this way and that. around the bottom of the mountain. like a trivial pursuit board they can go round and round the mountain or at any point cross over the top, this is a great spot for escape. i'd love to see a radio collared bucks travels here.

my trek of oh 1 3/4 miles in i believe will be worth it. multiple breaklines coming together. running water, which is a little scarce right now. heavy soft wood thicket, hare woods but i know for a fact the deer are using it, unhuntable. last year rubs and scrapes in there. this area is used for a reason and i'm sure it will be again this season. there is scat on the ground now. not looking forward to the walk in to check cameras being such a hump, especially in this heat and humidity, but i really can't wait to see what is in there.

hope i didn't divulge to much info on my core area seeing there are lurkers on the sight that may know where i am. not talking about my bud thats here, talking about maybe others.

i am seeing a few acorns, small ones, on the ground. for what thats worth.

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gfdeputy2

· #3 · Jul 18, 2010

OK Ronn I almost got your area figured out now Now I just have to figure out which of the hundreds of mountains you are at :biggrin:

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· #4 · Jul 18, 2010 (Edited)

wink wink. you're not a lurker but they are here. some might kinda know where i hunt.

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huntr-

· #5 · Jul 18, 2010

ronn said:
wink wink. you're not a lurker but they are here. some might kinda know where i hunt.

I was up on the area near the beaver ponds friday a.m. and ran into the same pick up that was there last season. They did mot see me but they were carring a alot of gear in on the westward trail. I f they read this I hope they know that f&g has been told to be on the look out. I will report them this year as I did not appreciate the way they conducted themselves last year and I do believe they read the posts here. I put one camera along the hillside two weeks ago. Got some photos of some decent deer. REMEMEBER THE OLD GAME OF HUNT THE HUNTER. I 'm still trying to get the names of there crew .

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· #6 · Jul 18, 2010

huntr- said:
I was up on the area near the beaver ponds friday a.m. and ran into the same pick up that was there last season. They did mot see me but they were carring a alot of gear in on the westward trail. I f they read this I hope they know that f&g has been told to be on the look out. I will report them this year as I did not appreciate the way they conducted themselves last year and I do believe they read the posts here. I put one camera along the hillside two weeks ago. Got some photos of some decent deer. REMEMEBER THE OLD GAME OF HUNT THE HUNTER. I 'm still trying to get the names of there crew .

i knew the name of one of the guys but can't remember it. i can find it in a heart beat though. the landowner said he and the family would be paying closer attention to the goings on back there as well.

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huntr-

· #7 · Jul 18, 2010

I will have to ask josh , he knows two of them . The boy and I will be setting up another ladder stand near to where I put the last trail cam. Plenty of bear sign although I haven't got photos yet , lots of scat.He doesn't seem to want to harvest abear yet. Not aproblem with me as I don't like bear meat even though I know a few that do.I spoke with a old friend that went hiking in the end of June and saw a trail camera in the edge of a meadow and said they posed for a photo . Did you get any interesting pictures ?

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hunt NH

· #8 · Jul 18, 2010

haha, now in know were you are at. just kidding you know i would never set up on someone elces spot.:biggrin:

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Southern Man

Discussion Starter · #9 · Jul 18, 2010

ronn said:
its my opinion, and only an opinion, that the core areas aren't as clearly defined as in less forested parts of the country. Feeding areas are clearly defined, oak flats, beech groves, apple orchards, etc. bedding areas are not as clearly defined. with so much cover they can and do bed anywhere even in the feeding areas. there is nothing saying they will feed here today though. nothing stopping them from going to a different area to feed. big bucks, old school named ridge runners, cover some ground. even the pods of does will be here for a couple days, then gone for 3 to 7 days then back again. yea sometimes deer just stay in a spot but not often. I think they got the ridge runners named because from the top of a mountain its drop off this way or that and nearer the bottom is a long way away from the other drop off line. ya know what i mean. so it could be days, and often is, before they are back in an area. now add in factors like hunters bumping them this way and that. around the bottom of the mountain. like a trivial pursuit board they can go round and round the mountain or at any point cross over the top, this is a great spot for escape. i'd love to see a radio collared bucks travels here.

my trek of oh 1 3/4 miles in i believe will be worth it. multiple breaklines coming together. running water, which is a little scarce right now. heavy soft wood thicket, hare woods but i know for a fact the deer are using it, unhuntable. last year rubs and scrapes in there. this area is used for a reason and i'm sure it will be again this season. there is scat on the ground now. not looking forward to the walk in to check cameras being such a hump, especially in this heat and humidity, but i really can't wait to see what is in there.

hope i didn't divulge to much info on my core area seeing there are lurkers on the sight that may know where i am. not talking about my bud thats here, talking about maybe others.

i am seeing a few acorns, small ones, on the ground. for what thats worth.

Didn't mean to make you give away any secrets Ron. I was just curious about the habits. L.E. has said the same of his woods or mountians in his area. I always wondered if it was the mountains or the large expanse of woods that made for the nomadic roaming. Food here is very plentiful and concentrated, and well, almost anywhere ya look. Deer are very loyal to home areas, there's no need to move. Some of the larger bucks will disappear come fall but some will stay. It seems they like to play "hide & seek" rather than leave an area.

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· #10 · Jul 18, 2010

no, its not that its a secret spot. its i know there are lurkers and it wouldn't be real hard to find out where abouts i am. this posted land that only 3 people have permission to be on is getting hunted and hard by trespassers. yea big woods are a different type of hunting than in farm country and mountains are different still. if you find the sign its a mater of seat time to make it happen but work and other commitments curb that. i was trying to post as much about it as i could to try and help/answer the question.

huntr- i didn't get pics of the moon. i did get the signage the landowner said i could put up so that will happen this week,,,,,,if it cools off a little. i hate to do it but these guys could easily wreck it for us. if you get the names let me know so if something happens thats sketchy or comes up missing i got a place to start. thanks.

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· #11 · Jul 18, 2010

huntr- what do you have for answer for southern man's question?

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huntr-

· #12 · Jul 18, 2010

As far as core areas we don't really have so called core areas. The deer aren't as plentiful as the lower half of the country and they tend to still have the same range , but with the steep country and narrow river bottoms, and ravines that run top to bottom, they can be anywhere on any day.The most common denominator usually is bedding area spread out through out their range. The food supply isn't as concentrated as down south either so they feed as they wander. Any pressure will send them into different areas for few days until they move to the next area. We don't have a lot of agricultural areas in the central part of the state so making an out of the ordinary food plot is sometimes a magnet so to speak , something different that may peak an interest for a while.A wandering buck in rut can cover a 3 mile area and be on one side of a ridge one morning and totally on the other side of the mountain for the next four days. It is a little different than hunting bottom land or slight rolling hills . Its the same every where you hunt , you just need to adapt and overcome.

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