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Hi guys im new to the fourm. Im 25 yrs old and getting into hunting more and more, have been into guns for a while,since 21, but know im getting into hunting and I think I might have jumped the gun and made a small mistake in a choice i made for a hunting rifle. I bought a weatherby vangaurd a few years ago inticapating to use it and have found out that i think the gun is to much for me. I recently bought a mossberg .30-30 lever action that i love. So im thinking im going to trade my vangaurd in for something more fitting and has less kick if you will. The vangaurd is a .270 and id like to invest in something that shoots more like the 30-30, maybe a .223,243 or 308? Im new to rifle cartidges and could use some help. Right know i like the stevens/savage guns and would like something in the left handed model due to its a PIA to shoot left with a right handed rifle LOL.
 

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If the .270 is too much for you, I would suggest getting yourself into a .243 caliber which I believe is also available in the Vanguard from Weatherby
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thanks guys. I have been looking around at diffrent rifle makers and trying to decide what to do. I think my weatherby barrel is to long for my size and i might need to switch to a lighter grain. Its a nice rifle and all but i just dont think it suits me as well as a rifle should
 

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I'll recommend a few other excellent cartridges, giving less recoil than the .270 (or .308). A couple of the .308's offspring are excellent all-around cartridges and do give recoil much closer, perhaps even less felt recoil than your 30/30.

Both the 7/08 and .260 Rem are excellent cartridges capable of taking deer-sized game beyond 300 yards (if that matters). Typical loads are a 120gr bullet with about 12 pounds of recoil force for the 7/08 (7.5 pound rifle) and also a 120gr load in the .260 giving about 13 pounds (also 7.5 pounds).

The .270 gives about 18 pounds with a 150gr (7.5 pounds) and the 30/30 with 170gr about 11 pounds (7.5 pounds). The .308 with 165gr gives 18 pounds as well (7.5 pounds)

Of course stock design and fit matter as well, but these numbers do show the significant difference, with all else equal.
 

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Left handed rifle options

You will find a smaller set of choices when you are looking at left handed rifles. You may want to consider the Browning BLR rifle. It ejects to the right but the operation of the lever doesn't care which shoulder you shoot from. This is offered in all the .308 class of calibers. For less kick I would recommend one of these- .243, .260, or 7mm-08. All three of these are considered lighter recoiling cartridges.

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Thats a nice rifle but its a lever action which i already have. Im looking for a bolt action rifle.
 

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Left handed bolt actions

All the manufactures make a left handed bolt action. I notice that most gunshops don't keep much inventory of left handed ones. Any shop can always order out one for you and get it in whatever caliber you are looking for. You might want to take your Vanguard to a gunshow and trade it for a left handed bolt action rifle. The rule of thumb is that most dealers will give you 50% of what they would pay a distributer for your rifle if it is still in new condition. I would guess that they would pay you something like $200 for your vanguard or give you that amount on trade. Selling it to someone you know is a good way to get more for it. Your .270 vanguard is a quality rifle in a great caliber.

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Thanks karl. I agree it is a great gun just for me a difucult gun for me. I think a trade in might be the best option for what i want.
 

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Trade it in and most times you'll get robbed. Put a picture in our classifieds and see if you draw any buyers. For a bolt gun you can't beat a Rem model 700 in your budget range. Sounds like a 243, 300 sav, 260 rem would fit your needs.
 

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Ok so ive been looking and found a few guns i like so far in a good price range but im having trouble finding anything left handed in my price range! I really wanted a mossberg 100atr but i cant seem to find any left handed models even from the companys website. I did a google search and found savage seems to be great for the left handed/ price range but they dont have the axis in left hand so the next one would have to be the model 11 FLNS. Any body have any other suggestions on left handed rifles that wont kill the banks??
 

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try gunbroker.com. just did a quick search and found 2 pages of left handed rifles.Heres one>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ruger M77 Hawkeye 270 Win Left Hand Bolt Act Rifle



Current Bid $0.00 No Reserve! Started at $614.99 for $624.99 )
 

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I know I'm old school but for deer & black bear hunting the Savage 99's are hard to beat. Prices for the 300 sav can still be very easy on the budget. The 300 sav shoots like a 243 but is a 30 cal. Modern 150 gr bullets can be pushed to just over 2600 fps accurate out to a max of about 300 yds. I'm not recoil sensitive, and would rate the recoil on the 300 sav as very light, mild. Something to consider.
 

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"but i'm having trouble finding anything left handed in my price range!"

Hunting Man beat me to the rifle I was thinking about. I'm also left handed and use the Savage Model 11 (or 111) in .270. Savage makes a great rifle and has many different calibers to choose from. Savage Arms > Firearms > Browse Models Here's a website to check out the different models to choose from.

If you have problems with the recoil, have you thought about using a recoil pad??? Limbsaver makes a great slip on pad that SIGNIFICANTLY reduces the recoil that you feel when squeezing the trigger. I had to get one a rifle I have in .300 Savage.

There are many different options available to you. Keep all your options open until you've had a chance to mull them all over and make an informed decision. The you have to get yourself a camera to show us what you decided on. <grin>

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I have looked around and found savage to be the best price for what i can spend. I am in the middle of talking to a guy about a trade for my 270 for a left handed savage model 11 in 270. I think the recoil can be tamed but the left handed shooting wont be untill i get the right rifle!
 

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i got a savage model 11 243 after 6 shots of sighting it in out of the box i put a grop of 3 in about the size of a penny

(make shure it has the the bushnell scope on it)
 
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