ronn is it a bowhunt or rifle/shotgun? Either way you'll show them how to drop a buck in its tracks and restore the Outfitter's confidence in his clients. Maybe it went both ways the clients didn't get their poorly hit game and the outfitter didn't have kind words for his clients abilit'y to shoot. Anyway I hope that 200" monster walks your way. Speaking of shotguns, I'm setting up a Remington Express 12 ga mag with a (Leupold 3X9 rifleman ex bought for my birthday this year, ya I know why is she still my ex!!!!). Gun came with 2 barrels one being the 20" rifled. I read where Remington has a new shotgun slug that is accurate out to 200 yds. I remember all we had was the old pumpkin balls good for 50-75 yds if you were lucky. This will be my midwest deer gitter.