Alright so her is the deal. As of late the past year or so my wifes father has been struggling with his health. He has a gun case full of firearms and today I asked him to open it to see how things looked. It was looking good until I took a look at a hawken style ml that he owns. The bore was rusty and he could not recall the last time it was cleaned. I tried cleaning it with the stuff he had but after repeated swabs and brushing the patches are still coming out dirty. Any suggestions would be appreciated this is a great looking gun that has seen many years in the field and may become part of my own collection some day.