[turbohawk1]

Has anyone used BH209 with T/C Triumph? What load works the best?

 

[Muley]

90-110gr is the sweet spot for any gun.

 

[turbohawk1]

Thanks Muley. What kind of primers would you recommend?

 

[frontiergander]

i too would start off at 90 and work your way up.

I use CCI 209 Magnums, the TC's though i hear are cleaner using the Winchester W209 primers.

Carry an 1/8" drill bit with you as well and clean the flash channel out after 3 shots. That 1/8" channel gets clogged up pretty quickly with carbon so its important to keep it clean.

 

[Guest]

Thanks guys! Awesome info! This is all new to me.

 

[Hunting Man]

I like the CCI also for the TC and Knight. I had to clean the Knight breach hole but not the TC Triumph so for.

 

[daddus1]

turbohawk,
just remember that you must use standard or magnum primers not the 777 primers
daddus

 

[turbohawk1]

Thanks for the info. Now i have to get this scope on my triumph.

 

[frontiergander]

remember to use a lil bit of blue loc-tite on the mounting screws. Just a wee bit.

 

[Hunting Man]

Triumph will most likely like 100 gr BH 209, CCI mag primers, TC superglide sabots/250 gr shockwave bullets. This is a tight load in the TC but pretty accurate combination. FG suggests lapping the bore to polish out any areas in-order to ease up the loading pressure required. Congrats on the purchase of the best production line of ML rifles out there! While the Leupold rifleman scope that I installed on my Triumph is not a ML scope I had it and it was new and I think I will get many years of service from it. Time will tell. I still think a 3x9x40 scope is more than ever fully justified for the new long range shooting ML rifles. Again congrats!

 

[turbohawk1]

I cant wait to shoot my Triumph! Im a little confused with this statement. FG suggests lapping the bore to polish out any areas in-order to ease up the loading pressure required. What does this mean? Thanks again guys.

 

[Hunting Man]

The idea is a product like JB Bore paste or similar products will polish out any rough machining areas, burs, sharp edges ect that make loading hard. The polishing just smoothes things out. That's the claim.

 

[frontiergander]

Makes those hard loading tc's bearable for the first time. This is very common practice. I do all of my bores, even centerfires with it. It will not an abrasive compound.

 

[Muley]

Makes those hard loading tc's bearable for the first time. This is very common practice. I do all of my bores, even centerfires with it. It will not an abrasive compound.

Last sentence is goofy.

 

[frontiergander]

oops damn keyboard is all.... sticky.....

It will not harm the barrel as its not an abrasive compound.

 

[Hunting Man]

What FG really wanted to say was CVA, TC, Lyman, Traditions, ect might benefit from an internal polishing. He didn't mean to imply that only TC could benefit. You don't want to polish the CVA's too much do to the extreme overbores and thus having the bullet/sabot fall right out of the barrel if you happen to tip it downwards. :w00t:

 

[Muley]

Funny HM. One of the reasons I sold the Omega was most all the bullets I tried in it were too loose. Even the .503 FPB. :sad:

 

[frontiergander]

muley, omegas have a wide variety of bore sizes.

The triumps on the other hand are well known for tight bores. Everyone on huntingnet that owns a trump, 99% of the time has to use JB Bore paste in it. Not making this stuff up guys. This isnt unheard of if you've been on some up to date forums.

All of my barrels get it, You can shoot a barrel smooth but IMO any nicks or burrs in the bore are just filling up with lead/copper rather than being smoothed out properly.

Its awesome to use on triggers as well but you do have to mix a bit more oil in with the paste or else it gets a very tight gummy feeling.

Muley, my old omega had a .502" bore as well. tc maxiballs you could practically blow it down the barrel and it would seat lol

 

[Muley]

I was still surprised that it was so loose. When I talked to TC they told me the Omega and Triumph have basically the same barrel except for length. I was expecting a tight barrel. Even Powerbelts and sabots were too loose.

Along with the trigger. I wasn't impressed with their quality control.

I've never heard of a CVA that the .500 Thor didn't fit perfect. I didn't even bother with the Thor sample kit. I just ordered the .500.

I like the TC sidelocks. Not so much for the inlines.

 

[Hunting Man]

If I had to rank them out I'd have TC, Traditions, then CVA a distant third. That's just how I see it. Most of all the people I know and hunt with are TC fans, there's a solid historical quality reason for it! To all those in the market for a new/used muzzleloader, you don't have to look no farther than TC line of products. Every TC rifle I have ever owned was a great shooting, accurate, and quality made product, what else needs to be said? Someday CVA will be able to say that, too! Heading to work!