yes i do as in some earlier posts on shockwaves or another 1 not sure bute i use barnes spitfire tmz expanders they are boat tailed too i can shoot with no exageration in a 3 shot average 1 " to 3/4 " group at 200 yrds with my burris fullfield 2 ballistic plex scope . just letting ya know things are a lil more expensive here in canada i pay 30 bucks for 15 rnds