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Indiana One Shot 06-25-2011 03:51 PM

Tradition Vortek
I ordered a Tradition Vortek from Cabela's and received it the other day. I have not shot it yet, but I like the feel of it. I got a question about the ramrod. You have to unscrew the jag from the ramrod and reverse it to push your sabot down the bore. If you are hunting and you want to take a second shot, do you have to reverse it in the field? That would take a lot of time. Or do you leave it reversed and it sticks out past the barrel ?
Also I have a Simmons 44 Mag 3x10, should use it or invest in a better scope? If so, what do you suggest? I would appreciate the help.

Hunting Man 06-25-2011 08:52 PM

I leave my jags on as it helps to have something to grip when fingers are cold and when you have a tight bore rifle. I really don't know if the 44 mag scope will hold up or not. Try it and see what happens. It would be plenty of scope for a muzzleloader. Just not sure of the long term durability.

Muley 06-25-2011 08:59 PM

Personally, I have no use for a jag while hunting. BH 209 never needs to be swabbed. I just carry a loading tip on my ramrod.

Hunting Man 06-25-2011 09:26 PM

Muley I wish I could say the same thing. The TC Triumph is really tight and I need all the grip I can get.

frontiergander 06-25-2011 09:37 PM

Huntingman - JB Bore Paste on a lightly oiled barrel and give it 60 strokes.

As for the loading/cleaning jag, anything thats plastic goes in the trash! Get a brass loading/cleaning jag.

Hunting Man 06-26-2011 12:02 AM

FG, worth a try to polish the bore. No plastic for me. I leave the brass jags on the flintlocks too!

Muley 06-26-2011 09:16 AM

The reason I don't like loading with a jag is it's designed to have a patch around it. So, it's a tighter fit than a loading tip. I find I scrape the muzzle at times with the jag if I load with it.

I know i could avoid this by being more careful, but loading a quick 2nd shot is not a time to be careful. :no:

BruceBruce1959 06-27-2011 06:54 AM

Second shots are often desired but with every muzzleloader there's really no quicker way to reload from one brand of muzzleloader to another.
The best advice in this situation is, make the first shot count, that ends the hassle of having to quickly reload a second round.

Muley 06-27-2011 07:24 AM

Of course, but where I hunt, I don't like being without a loaded gun.

Especially when bear hunting.

I don't carry a backup sidearm like some guys do.

BruceBruce1959 06-28-2011 07:20 AM

I understand your situation muley but no matter how you try loading them it takes a routine amount of time loading any muzzleloader, trying to do it quicker in the field usually ends up taking longer because the shooters rushing himself and fumbling with the reload items.

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