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post #1 of 38 (permalink) Old 08-06-2010, 04:23 PM Thread Starter
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need advice for very good muzzleloader

Hello folks,

I'm new here. I've been hunting for years (rifle & archery) but am planning on buying a muzzleloader later this year.

Who is making the absolutely best muzzleloaders? Quality, reliability, accuracy, optics, etc.?

Thanks for any help,

John
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post #3 of 38 (permalink) Old 08-06-2010, 05:13 PM
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I don't know anything about Savage ML's so I can't comment on those. I do have several TC's and can attest to their excellent quality. I just purchased a Knight based upon their track record, and like ronn I rate the old CVA rifles very low. Traditions make reliable muzzleloaders and most likely the new CVA's are fine. I highly rate TC rifles as near the top!
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post #4 of 38 (permalink) Old 08-06-2010, 05:25 PM
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thats like asking what color is prettier, red blue or green.

i have a t/c renegade in 54 i've had for years never a lick of problem. i have a old cva inline that i dislike very much but i understand cva is better now. i shoot a savage inline when i do use a front stuffer. i like the savage the most because its the only ml that you can use smokeless powder in making it way faster and flatter shooting than black powder guns.

so to be more direct. my choice would be a savage but you can't really go wrong with a t/c.

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I've heard good things about the T/C muzzloaders. I can remember a tv commercial a couple of years ago showing some sort of T/C muzzleloader with a bullet compensation/drop scope. It was based upon a "propriety" bullet weight/load that was very accurate with the optics system. I want to say it was their Encore model w/ a Nikon scope but I'm not sure. Can anyone help me out with this one?
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i own the entire 2010 line up from CVA and they are excellent rifles.

They shoot both full bore projectiles and sabots extremely well. Smooth crisp triggers, light weight and most importantly Accurate.

Dpms firearms, panther arms, dpms panther arms, dpms, dpms firearms, dpms guns has the new cva optima for $225 and some change and the blue black Wolf for only $167. We have 2 of the new wolfs and 1 to 1 1/2" groups @ 100 yards are normal.

Cabelas has a great deal on the CVA Accura for $200 with blue barrel and black stock. The Accura easily has the best trigger on the CVA Line up. Mine is around 2lbs with no grit or creep.
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Greetings johnnyf, Welcome to the Club..

You can search all day long but you won't find another Muzzleloader that offers as many features that the Traditions Vortek offers.

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VORTEK FEATURES
Accelerator Breech Plug
Quick Release of Drop Out Trigger assembly for easy cleaning and maintence
Egronomic Alloy Frame is lighter weight and helps prevent rust
1:28" twist rifling
Stainless Steel barrels for added rust protection
209 shotgun primer ignition
PAS- Projectile Alignment System easy loading and more consistent groups
Fast action release button
Quick Relief Recoil Pad
Over-travel hammer
Over-molded stock and forend
Thumbhole stocks available
WilliamsTM metal fiber optic sights
Drilled & tapped for scope
Sling swivel studs
Solid aluminum ramrod
Soft Touch camouflage stocks
360 Degree Barrel Porting reduces muzzle jump
Extended ambidextrous hammer spur.


The all new Traditions Vortek is the most technologically advanced platform to enter the muzzleloading playing field. Traditions engineers and designers did not hold back on this one!
The ultimate muzzleloading platform with technology being the foundation for it's creation.

Five Core Technologies:

*Advanced metal coating on Vortek Frame- Impervious to rust or corrosion and extremely durable.

*True Stainless Steel Fluted Barrel with Porting- Improved corrosion resistant exterior as well as the inside of the bore, dampening barrel porting technology.

*Drop Out Trigger- Quickly remove trigger assembly for easy access for cleaning.

*Accelerator Breech Plug- Award winning quick release breech plug can be removed with your fingertips. No more breech plug removal wrenches!

*Hogue™ Overmolded Stocks with Rubber Soft Touch- Unsurpassed feel and grip.

When you stack it all up feature for feature, there is no other muzzleloading platform that offers you more value and performance. PERIOD!

Good Luck with whichever Muzzleloader you decide on.

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Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the outcome of the vote.
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TC TC TC TC once you try them you'll never go back
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TC TC TC TC once you try them you'll never go back
TC is now owned by S&W (Smith & Wesson)
I wonder if that means at one point TC was failing and S&W stepped in to recover the company?
S&W never manufactured muzzleloaders, I think these are important things to consider when thinking about purchasing a TC muzzleloader.

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TC Encore system is pretty hard to beat for top end equipment. The one great advantage TC has is that you can have the same trigger pull for your muzzleloader,rifle,slug gun or pistol. anywhere from 2.5 lbs and up
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Plus it gives you multiple excuses to get new barrels and stocks
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if you never ever have to shoot conicals, tc would be fine.

Accura V2,
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