Bruce, I hear you, but as you said those of us using bows like Mathews, Hoyt, and Bowtech will most likely return to these class bows when we replace our current ones. The debate follows the one recently on scopes, buy what you feel comfortable with in your price range and be happy. Some people will buy a chevy cobalt others a corvette both will defend their purchases as the most value for their money. After many bows, Mathews is the one (I) like best. I'm sure Chuck gets paid mucho dollars to shoot a Reflex. Most bows will get the job done, however, do you want the cobalt or the vette? We get a choise and that's what really matters. Where can you get better debate than on this site?