Son came over last night to shoot. His new Mathew's no cam is really a nice bow and he put all top quality parts on it make a great looking bow. I finally got some shots in with the 380 Excalibur x-bow and it is fast! After about 10 shots the shoulders had had enough. The draw weight is stout. We shot out to 30 yds and both bows are on the money. I want to shoot 40 yds next just to know the pre-calibrated scope markers are spot on. The scope was sighted in at Bass Pro for 20yds but I had to make 1 click up, 1/2" at 20 change for 30 yds. This will put me just a tad high at 20 yds but easy to compensate for. Hopefully, the 40 yd crosshair is dead on.