Well I'm set to have my new primos 60 delivered today... kinda hoping they send me a higher up model b/c when I called I asked them if they are having lots of problems with the 60 and they said YES! Plus, if they send me the next higher one, that'll be more $$ in my pocket to get another moultrie or bushnell. I'm really tempted on the bushnell, but my mind is more at ease with the moultrie since I already have one. what to do, what to do....