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buckfever 10-04-2009 05:37 AM

New coon dogs
 
Me and 10 point bought us some coon dogs. He got the high dollar male and I got the cheaper female. We took the male out for a minute the other night and he had one treed in about 20 mins.

10 points dog

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My dog

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timberghost 10-04-2009 08:37 AM

Good deal, do those type of dogs have an instinct to chase coons or do they have to be trained a little. I would like to have a dog like that.

joel the signman 10-04-2009 11:12 AM

very nice there used to be a kennel next to my old steel shop"the pokey moonshine hunting club" mostly coon and rabbit dogs.god that place stunk in august:surprised:

ronn 10-04-2009 12:04 PM

nothing sounds of back in tn like the bay or chop of a coon hound, sweet sound in the pitch black of night. enjoy. oh are you shooting the coon? seems now days they don't.

buckfever 10-04-2009 09:20 PM

TG. They have to be trained.

Ronn. We didnt shoot the one the other night. But will. Especially around my house and my bro-in-laws place. Coons got my chickens earlier this year and ripped open a couple of bags in the feed room. (in the same night) Im out to get all the varmints from around my house. Bro-in-law always has problems with them too.

Also curious about some things ronn. You hear some folks say to not let your kids pet/be overfriendly with your hunting dog because it will ruin them. Do you agree with that. And also does that go for the dog owner as well. Some of the big coon hunters you read about online claim you cant be too nice to your dog. (love it to death etc) In their eyes a good coon dog knows when its time to hunt and when its time to play. I understand why you leave them put up, but havent figured out what would be wrong with the kids going out to feed and pet it for a minute a couple times a week. Whats your thoughts on it and how did ya'll do it when you were chasing coons in TN?

buckfever 10-04-2009 09:21 PM

TG. They have to be trained.

Ronn. We didnt shoot the one the other night. But will. Especially around my house and my bro-in-laws place. Coons got my chickens earlier this year and ripped open a couple of bags in the feed room. (in the same night) Im out to get all the varmints from around my house. Bro-in-law always has problems with them too.

Also curious about some things ronn. You hear some folks say to not let your kids pet/be overfriendly with your hunting dog because it will ruin them. Do you agree with that. And also does that go for the dog owner as well. Some of the big coon hunters you read about online claim you cant be too nice to your dog. (love it to death etc) In their eyes a good coon dog knows when its time to hunt and when its time to play. I understand why you leave them put up, but havent figured out what would be wrong with the kids going out to feed and pet it for a minute a couple times a week. Whats your thoughts on it and how did ya'll do it when you were chasing coons in TN?

ronn 10-05-2009 01:19 PM

its a "who is the master" thing i believe. there can only be one. and they are thought of as a tool by many. that said it seems inhuman not to play with a dog and treat it as part of the family. I think you as the master can do pretty much whatever you want and the dog should submit. maintaining the master dog relationship

with my bird dogs i'm the only one that does anything with them in the field. I tell them what to do, I praise them or scold them, get the bird from them, lead them and so on. this has lead to issues at home cause they won't listen to anyone else in the house. makes for remarks like "will you tell your dogs to go lay down". but in the field it helps because they listen to me..........most of the time. there is no way i would leave them kenneled up as most of the real dog handlers would do, not here with these brutal winters.

We had good dogs and dogs that weren't so good. seems they get traded, bought and sold with little regard. perhaps thats another reason for limiting the house dog thing. there is a culture all its own in coon hunting.

seems any working or sporting dog is treated as more of a tool than a family member. sled dogs, rabbit dogs, bear dogs, bird dogs, all of them are tools. now thats not being negative, you wouldn't leave your circular saw out it the rain or throw it from the roof. ideally you treat your tools well and with care, as well as not let the kids play with them.

i remember coon hunting is where i learned to duck really fast. i'd hear that swish sound and i'd tuck and roll. those limbs come at ya in a hurry.

only my thoughts on it.

Professor Nono 10-31-2009 09:44 AM

I have posted in another thread about rabbit dogs - beagles. I have one beagle - AKC 13 inch male blue ticked. He is a member of the family. He is also one of the best hunters I've seen from time to time. My buddy and I were really interested to see if a dog could be a pet and a hunter. It can. However, my experience has been that it takes some time to get your pet back into the hunter mode vs. the pet mode. I'll take some rabbit scent with me to the field and drip some on the ground to "his blood going." Once he finds a rabbit and runs it, he'll hunt harder from that point on. If I hunt him the same week, he'll still be in hunter mode. He won't hunt for anybody but me. If I leave him with my buddy, he won't hunt for him. But I think all of this is specific to the individual dog. You may get one that just thinks - "Hell, I aint going into those thorns, I'm going to just relax and let all of those other fool dogs do the work." Or you may get one that thinks "Hell, I'm going to let it all hang out and let the kids take care of me when I get back to the house." I got lucky with my dog. But if my kids go with me to the field, I tell them that I am the only one that give the dog orders or calls him in any way. Also, I have a routine with him - I always put him in the dog box when we are going to run. I think this helps get him in the right state of mind - I treat him like a hunter. Finally, I maintain strict control of the feeding. My kids would have that dog fat as a pig if I didn't keep a close eye on it. Fat dogs cant run.


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