OK, same question, why are you set on a new low end rifle? You will spend nearly the same money on a new budget rifle, and that's all you are getting or you can shop around the gun shows, online auctions and get a really nice used rifle that will hold it's value better. Just my thoughts as I don't see much out there in the budget market for new rifles that I would want to spend my hard earned money on. Firearms are pretty much what you spend=what you get. Be patient and study all the factory offerings and make your choise. 308 is a perfect all around round. Good luck!