- Rifle Hunting
- - Weatherby or Savagr
|fljack ||08-05-2012 12:33 AM |
Weatherby or Savagr
I had to off load a Kimber 8400 in 30-06 to pay some bills and now need to replace it for the new season. I am looking at all weather modles from Weatherby and Savage. I think I will stay with the 30-06 round because of the versatility. Althought I would like info on the 257 Weatherby Mag. I live in North Florida and the deer arnt big and shots arnt long. I do have a friend in Colorido and might have to take a shot at a elk some time. Also I have seen some interest in the 280 REM and would like to know how it stacks up with the 06. I have a open mind and would like to see what you guys have to say. By the way hello and Im glad to be on your site. The Kimber was a tack driver and deer slayer, I need to have another gun that will do as good at a lower price. Thanks FL
|Hunting Man ||08-05-2012 10:11 AM |
My thoughts are why not be slightly different. The 30-06 is like a model T Ford, everyone has one it runs all day and gets the job done. I have a couple of 30-06 rifles and have no problems grabbing one to hunt with. However, why not venture with being a little differnt than the neighbor? Weatherby in 280 would serve you well and take anything in the USA except the big bears. Savage has a good name for accuracy but leaves much to the eye for dull mulldane looks and will not hold their value over the years, compared to other makes. Even the old 270 win might be a slightly better choise for you doing most of your hunting in Florida. Their are plenty of other makes out their that would fill your needs. Another option would be to locate a nice used rifle like a Remington mountain rifle, these are hard to beat. Thinking outside the box can be a rewarding experience! Purchasing a new rifle should be a fun experience and after doing all your homework you will find which rifle meets your current needs. Good luck!
|fljack ||08-05-2012 10:54 AM |
YES THE 06 is like a model T. It is the caliber that most non mag rounds are compared to, and most were made from. After saying that I am interested in the 280 and would like to hear the advantages of this round. I do think the Weatherby has better looks but I am more interested in the performance of the gun.
|spiker ||08-05-2012 01:14 PM |
Sorry about having to dump the Kimber i own one in 300wsm.I owned a Weatherby Accumark in 270 weatherby mag and now own 2 Savages.I was very disappointed in the Weatherby and their known for poor accuracy.Im not happy with 1.5 grps at 100 yds for that money.Savage makes a far superior rifle except in fit and finish.The Savage starting at the low end to their top of line will outshoot the Weatherby out of the box.Now the Weatherby will look prettier but the Savage has the better trigger in the accutrigger.Savage is not the low end gun it used to be and for the cost of the Weatherby their are far superior rifles for a lot less.I.E.Tikka,Sako,Thompson.Remember only accurate rifles are interesting.IMHO Weatherby are way over priced and only an average rifle.I would go 30/06 for a one gun battery.
|Hellbilly ||08-05-2012 08:47 PM |
check out one of these. Friend has one and is a tack driver
|onehorse ||08-05-2012 09:51 PM |
Hunting Man and I are big 280 fans. I have killed more game with it than I can count - everything from small pronghorns to big bull elk - it's another round (like the 30/06) that does it all... but it is an overlooked caliber, to be sure. All of the other rounds mentioned are more than adequate for your needs. As for an all-weather rifle, which you said you wanted - take a look at a Tikka T3 Lite (stainless/synthetic). I bought one just to see if it were as good as everyone had said. It was! Guaranteed to shoot one inch groups at 100 yards. It does! And it is less expensive than most of the rifles mentioned, and comes with scope rings. Good luck.
|Hunting Man ||08-05-2012 10:10 PM |
Well all three 270 WM's of mine will shoot 1" groups all day at 100 yds and better with a superior rest. I give the Savage trigger a nod. However, with top weatherby's at near $1400.00 it's not for everyone. Purchase what you can afford and put as much towards a nice scope as you can. If you can tell I'm not a big Savage fan allthough I haven't purchased any of their more modern models. I'd still put my money in a really nice used Remington mountain rifle before I'd buy a new Savage, just my preference.
|fljack ||08-05-2012 11:55 PM |
Not the Mark V
I am getting alot of response about the Weatherby being expensive. I am looking at the new Vanguard S2 which lists under $600.00. All the reviews have been really good and it seems the trigger is great. I will look at the Teka T3 and I am also looking at the Remington XCR.
|fljack ||08-06-2012 12:01 AM |
I would love to hear from the 280 fans. What makes this round better than the -06.
|Karl.Luhr ||08-06-2012 05:42 PM |
There are Weatherbys and there are Vanguards
There are two types of Weatherby rifles. Weatherby Mark Vs and Vanguards. The Weatherby Mark Vs are made to Weatherby specs and feature the 6 or 9 lug Weatherby action. The Weatherby Vanguards are made for Weatherby by Howa of Japan. The Company Howa also makes and sells rifles under their own name of Howa. I think that the Smith and Wesson rifles offered at one time were also made for them by Howa but I could be wrong on that one. I am a fan of the 30-06 for hunting Elk and Deer. The 280 Rem is just as good on both, just don't forget your ammo if you are using a 280 Rem. Savages are very accurate rifles and if you skip the cheapest version very nice. I agree with what others have said that they are probibly the least attractive compaired to Vanguards. The Vanguards have a 24 inch barrel and are a little heavier then the Savages that sport a 22 inch. I like the one piece bolt on the Vanguard over the multi-piece one on the Savage. Personally if I was spending my money on one of those two Vanguard or Savage 110, I would be bringing home a Vanguard. Not to cloudy the waters but I would look at the Marlin XL7 prior to buying either the Vanguard or Savage 110. I would avoid the pure entry model Savage Axis.
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