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Old 06-15-2012, 05:44 PM
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Did you stay with the same weight bullet in the solid alloy bullets or did you go down one weight size? I personally use 165gr in 30 cal in my 30-06s. Should I then plan on going down to 150gr bullets in 30 cal for my 30-06s if I was looking for a similar length bullet with similar performance on game?

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I use 150 gr. TTSX bullets in my 300 SWM for deer and elk, and that's plenty coming out of this gun at a little over 3000 FPS. All the copper bullets are noted for extreme penetration, so you don't need the weight to achieve that. Also, I like the idea of a faster bullet. I believe the 165 grainers would be great, but, honestly, I don't think the 180 gr. will give any better performance.
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:40 PM
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Default Cleaning the bore after the all copper bullets. ie TTSX

Can you get the bore clean with just a brass brush with Hopies Number 9? I would rather not have to switch over to the aggressive high tech cleaners. They will supposely keep attacking until neutralized. I would guess that is a very easy way to ruin a good barrel. What do you guys use?

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Can you get the bore clean with just a brass brush with Hoppes Number 9? I would rather not have to switch over to the aggressive high tech cleaners. They will supposedly keep attacking until neutralized. I would guess that is a very easy way to ruin a good barrel. What do you guys use?

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The copper only bullets are copper on the outside just like copper jacketed bullets.
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Old 06-20-2012, 04:06 PM
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Default The solid copper bullets leave a mess

I remember when Barnes was first pushing there bullets that it was a problem with them leaving lots of copper in the bore. They were formed using soft copper due to them not having a soft lead core. I thought that there was also problems with the Barnes TTSX bullets leaving more copper deposits then say a Nosler ballistic tip or Partition bullet. The story that I remember was that Barnes used pure copper instead of the alloy that bullet manufactures normally use. The solid alloy bullets from Nosler and Hornady use basically jacket alloy without the lead core. I would like to buy a box of the Barnes TTSX bullets, but don't want to have issues getting the copper fouling out using standard cleaning methods. I know that Barnes added the groves into their bullet to lower the pressure of the bullet in the bore without a compressible lead core. This might also mean that they have gone over to an alloy of copper, and is no longer pure copper.

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