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Old 04-24-2012, 08:17 PM
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Default Rifles and Bullets II

Hi guys, I have a theory; the bullet used to zero in the scope will usually become the bullet of choice for the rife. This stems from me taking four different rounds to the range and seeing how my rifle shot each of them. The round that gave me the tightest grouping was also the round that I sighted the scoop with, the Winchester Power Point, 150 gr. My second best grouping was the Winchester Power Point, 165 gr. The Remington Cor-Lok 180 gr and 150 gr where no were near as tight. I would love to get some feed-back on this.
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Old 04-24-2012, 09:41 PM
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Can't quite tell from your post, but if you shot all of those different bullets, or even some of them, during the same trip to the range, there could be a couple of reasons why the first ones seemed to be the best. Your rifle barrel could have gotten heated up which would account for widening groups, or your barrel could have gotten fouled by the earlier rounds. It doesn't take many rounds to effect groups. Also, if you were shooting a new rifle, did you break it in properly before you even tried to decide which bullets worked best?
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Old 04-24-2012, 11:02 PM
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If you did all your shooting on one day, I would guess that you started getting tired and that also affected your group size. Shooting three rounds then checking your target will keep you from anticipating the recoil and jerking the shot. Remember shooting is not suppose to be work, it is suppose to be FUN...

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Old 04-25-2012, 09:55 AM
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Actually, my grouping got tighter as I shoot. I fired 5 rounds of each bullet, waiting a couple minutes with the chamber open before firing the next rounds. I fired the 180 gr rounds first then the Rem 150's, then the Win 165's, and finally the Win 150's, which gave me the best grouping.
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Old 04-25-2012, 03:32 PM
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Default Maybe your Rifle needed to settle/break-in in a little..

With the loads you were shooting I would guess that you were firing a 30-06 and either the barrel needed to break-in or the bedding needed to settle in. It would be interesting to clean your barrel then fire a mix of 4 or 5 rounds through it. Afterwards fire 3 rounds of each weight again for record. It is very possible that your Rifle just does like that 150 grain load. There is nothing wrong with a 150gr in the 30-06.

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Old 04-26-2012, 10:22 PM
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Deff a 30-06. I love the win 150 in power point. They shot the tightest groups put of my rifle .
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Old 04-26-2012, 10:45 PM
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Default I too LOVE the 30-06

It isn't as sexy as some, but it sure seems to do the job..

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Old 04-28-2012, 08:22 PM
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With the loads you were shooting I would guess that you were firing a 30-06 and either the barrel needed to break-in or the bedding needed to settle in. It would be interesting to clean your barrel then fire a mix of 4 or 5 rounds through it. Afterwards fire 3 rounds of each weight again for record. It is very possible that your Rifle just does like that 150 grain load. There is nothing wrong with a 150gr in the 30-06.

Karl
Yep, Weatherbey/Howa .30-06 (Ducks Unlimited special edition) 24" barrel. I puchaced it new, and followed the Howa break-in instructions. I have fired maybe 200 to 300 rounds through it, and after every visit to the shooting range the gun in cleaned. At my next visit to the range I will do just that, I'll fire one of each different round, then fire the rounds in groups of 3, but in reverse order, and see if it changes anything.
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Old 04-28-2012, 08:31 PM
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Deff a 30-06. I love the win 150 in power point. They shot the tightest groups put of my rifle .

Yea, see Karl's responce. The Win 150's seem to be the round of choice for the this rifle. While at the range I like to take my Leatherman file and file those big flat tips down to a point. I get "really" tight grouping then. Not sure what that would do to the bullets performance's in a hunting situation, but I like the groupings.
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:03 AM
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Default The Weatherby Vangard by Howa

I have never got the chance to shoot one of these but they feel like a very solid, well put together Rifle. Congradulations on finding a factory load that yours really likes. Time to take-up reloading, that will open up an even bigger set of options for you.

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