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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 08-15-2011, 10:34 PM Thread Starter
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Hi guys im new to the fourm. Im 25 yrs old and getting into hunting more and more, have been into guns for a while,since 21, but know im getting into hunting and I think I might have jumped the gun and made a small mistake in a choice i made for a hunting rifle. I bought a weatherby vangaurd a few years ago inticapating to use it and have found out that i think the gun is to much for me. I recently bought a mossberg .30-30 lever action that i love. So im thinking im going to trade my vangaurd in for something more fitting and has less kick if you will. The vangaurd is a .270 and id like to invest in something that shoots more like the 30-30, maybe a .223,243 or 308? Im new to rifle cartidges and could use some help. Right know i like the stevens/savage guns and would like something in the left handed model due to its a PIA to shoot left with a right handed rifle LOL.
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post #2 of 27 (permalink) Old 08-16-2011, 06:26 AM
 
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If the .270 is too much for you, I would suggest getting yourself into a .243 caliber which I believe is also available in the Vanguard from Weatherby
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might as well rule out the 308. Try something like 243, 300 sav
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post #4 of 27 (permalink) Old 08-16-2011, 08:20 AM Thread Starter
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thanks guys. I have been looking around at diffrent rifle makers and trying to decide what to do. I think my weatherby barrel is to long for my size and i might need to switch to a lighter grain. Its a nice rifle and all but i just dont think it suits me as well as a rifle should
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If the .270 is too much for you, I would suggest getting yourself into a .243 caliber which I believe is also available in the Vanguard from Weatherby
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post #6 of 27 (permalink) Old 08-16-2011, 01:28 PM
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I'll recommend a few other excellent cartridges, giving less recoil than the .270 (or .308). A couple of the .308's offspring are excellent all-around cartridges and do give recoil much closer, perhaps even less felt recoil than your 30/30.

Both the 7/08 and .260 Rem are excellent cartridges capable of taking deer-sized game beyond 300 yards (if that matters). Typical loads are a 120gr bullet with about 12 pounds of recoil force for the 7/08 (7.5 pound rifle) and also a 120gr load in the .260 giving about 13 pounds (also 7.5 pounds).

The .270 gives about 18 pounds with a 150gr (7.5 pounds) and the 30/30 with 170gr about 11 pounds (7.5 pounds). The .308 with 165gr gives 18 pounds as well (7.5 pounds)

Of course stock design and fit matter as well, but these numbers do show the significant difference, with all else equal.
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Left handed rifle options

You will find a smaller set of choices when you are looking at left handed rifles. You may want to consider the Browning BLR rifle. It ejects to the right but the operation of the lever doesn't care which shoulder you shoot from. This is offered in all the .308 class of calibers. For less kick I would recommend one of these- .243, .260, or 7mm-08. All three of these are considered lighter recoiling cartridges.

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post #8 of 27 (permalink) Old 08-16-2011, 04:17 PM Thread Starter
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Thats a nice rifle but its a lever action which i already have. Im looking for a bolt action rifle.
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post #9 of 27 (permalink) Old 08-16-2011, 04:51 PM
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Left handed bolt actions

All the manufactures make a left handed bolt action. I notice that most gunshops don't keep much inventory of left handed ones. Any shop can always order out one for you and get it in whatever caliber you are looking for. You might want to take your Vanguard to a gunshow and trade it for a left handed bolt action rifle. The rule of thumb is that most dealers will give you 50% of what they would pay a distributer for your rifle if it is still in new condition. I would guess that they would pay you something like $200 for your vanguard or give you that amount on trade. Selling it to someone you know is a good way to get more for it. Your .270 vanguard is a quality rifle in a great caliber.

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post #10 of 27 (permalink) Old 08-16-2011, 05:39 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks karl. I agree it is a great gun just for me a difucult gun for me. I think a trade in might be the best option for what i want.
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