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post #1 of 37 (permalink) Old 11-05-2010, 08:02 PM Thread Starter
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AR's in the woods?

first, before this gets out of hand, let me know if this is a re-post or whatever you want to call it.

if not, let it get out of hand...

my question has one difference than most other AR in the woods threads. specifically i dont have the normal one youre thinking of, its not a .223, its not a .308, its a .450 bushmaster.

the thoughts going through my mind are "well, i shot a 240GR bullet out of my muzzle loader when i had it, at about 2000FPS or a little slower". i never chronographed it. so a 250GR bullet going 2200FPS wouldnt be much different, and it would be at the same time. catch what im saying? its zeroed dead on at 50 yards, has an EO-Tech holographic weapon sight on it, and its accurate out to 150 yards. furthest i feel comfortable shooting it. they say 200-250, but without a magnifying scope, no way.

so, what do you guys think? they are gaining popularity.
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.450 for deer? Isn't that a little overkill?

I could see if you were hunting bear or moose, but it's way too much caliber for anything I would be hunting around home.
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.450 for deer? Isn't that a little overkill?

I could see if you were hunting bear or moose, but it's way too much caliber for anything I would be hunting around home.
Deer are a bit bigger bodied up here though.......Personally I see nothing wrong at all with using an AR for deer hunting. I think a 308 would work better but a .450 Bushmaster would also work great.
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too much caliber? really? youve never heard of a .58Cal muzzle loader? .54? .50? like i stated in my post, i had a muzzle loader that shot a .44Cal 240 grain bullet, only 10 grains lighter and slightly smaller in diameter. the .450 has a 250 grain bullet. people use ML's all the time, thats not too much, so why is the .450 too much? it only goes 200FPS faster than a muzzle loader, will have about the same trajectory, and about the same if not a little more energy.

guys use .300WM and .300RUM to hunt deer, they are by far more powerful than the .450. and what about the marlin guys? 450 marlin, too much?

and its not strictly a caliber thing. its about energy. a .308Win with a 150 grain bullet has about the same energy as the .450 bushmaster.

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i really didnt mean for that to be offensive, more like a quick jab or two. but what im more concerned with are your views on the actual platform in the woods. not just the caliber. just added that in because i knew you would all be asking me what it is anyway. anyone else?
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The AR-15 is a very good platform. I don't see why it would be frowned upon being used in the deer woods.....although there are just some people out there like that...
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post #7 of 37 (permalink) Old 11-06-2010, 08:00 AM Thread Starter
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see, thats what im talking about. im in the army, and i carried an M4 carbine in iraq for a year, and ive qualified with M16's for 7 years now, its kind of a comfort thing too, i know exactly where everything is already, and i already know every way to correct a malfunction. and i think it would be fun too.

man, i cant wait for regular season to open back home! 20-NOV cant get here fast enough.
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id say go for it, as long as you have the right ammo whats the issue? I know there are some hunters out there that are hardcore into their $700 Remington's but i'm a guy who likes military guns, and if it kills the same then why not. I think its mostly a territorial thing going on, like hunters feel that guys using military weapons aren't really hunters. I grew up hunting and had a 308, now im using a mosin. I prefer military guns because if i'm going to shell out $700 on a gun it better be something thats fun for the range too.
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post #9 of 37 (permalink) Old 11-07-2010, 05:27 PM Thread Starter
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well, $700 for the .450 bushmaster will only get you the upper reciever. i paid right around $1400 about 6 or 8 months after they first came out(i know, a sucker born everyday). anyway, theres really only 2 loadings for it. one from hornady, 250GR FTX, and one from remington, 260GR accu tip. and i havent seen the 260 anywhere. and i have a remington(.223) thats worth around $1500-1600 with everything on it. so its not price that im worried about. and i mean, i already know im going to bring it in the woods, i just want to see what everyones views are.
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i say go for it i'm going to buy the new r25 by remington it's a 308 i also use a marlin 444 sometimes for deer most of the time its my pa bear gun but i think you will be fine good luck let us know how it works for deer
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