sks for deer.

you got that earn a buck thing don't you?

[WisconsinDeer]

Originally Posted by ronn

you got that earn a buck thing don't you?

I don't think we have it this year, but I haven't heard. It might only be in a few counties.

deer numbers down?

[WisconsinDeer]

Originally Posted by ronn

deer numbers down?

I believe its only in chronic wasting disease areas now. All I know is that everyone complained about it. I'm not sure of the exacty reason why we got rid of it, we didn't have it last year either.

[o1sick7]

Let me ask everyone a question. How many people can shoot a 1' group at 100 yds with a 3030 iron sight? I sure can't? Does this make it a mini van? Or is it because the ammo? I got some nolser 124gn today. Actual hunting rounds. Does it make my gun a truck? I can name a lot of guns off the top of my head that can't and won't shoot moa at all. But people will praise them as a great deer rifle. And my gun has plenty of energy to kill antelope. And with hunting rounds. Is it still a mini van? If so take all your 3030's and 4570's and basicly every guide gun out there and write mini van on it. I like mine and it groups good for me I'll post pics tomorrow to prove it. So I'll use it.

[WisconsinDeer]

Did I forget to mention that the oh so popular 30-06 is actually a military cartridge? It was designed for the U.S. 1903 Springfield rifle that was used in both world wars and a few others. The 1903 Springfield rifle has killed its fair share of big game animals. The 30-06 cartridge was the U.S. military cartridge from 1906 all the way up until the U.S. adopted the 7.62x51 nato cartridge (.308 winchester). So both the 30-06 and the .308 are military cartridges.

Originally Posted by o1sick7

Let me ask everyone a question. How many people can shoot a 1' group at 100 yds with a 3030 iron sight? I sure can't? Does this make it a mini van? Or is it because the ammo? I got some nolser 124gn today. Actual hunting rounds. Does it make my gun a truck? I can name a lot of guns off the top of my head that can't and won't shoot moa at all. But people will praise them as a great deer rifle. And my gun has plenty of energy to kill antelope. And with hunting rounds. Is it still a mini van? If so take all your 3030's and 4570's and basicly every guide gun out there and write mini van on it. I like mine and it groups good for me I'll post pics tomorrow to prove it. So I'll use it.

its the intended design its one or the other. you can put lipstick and perfume on a pig but that doesn't change the fact its a pig.

if the ammo and rifle combo can do the job and you want to, use it. no on ever said don't. why in the world would ,if one owns one, not use a hunting rifle to hunt with.

i suppose you guys drive nails with a crescent wrench too. why not its heavy enough. it'll get the nail to go in. i can hit it, most of the time, and good enough. i don't want to use my 20oz finish hammer i want to use my crescent wrench.

like i've said use what you want but i have issues with that way of thinking. if that makes it my problem so be it. i spend a good deal of my time shaking my head watching this mentality. it seems to be pretty common too.

[Southern Man]

Originally Posted by WisconsinDeer

Here's my deer hunting rig....1941 Izhevsk 91/30 Mosin Nagant. Synthetic stock with Simmons 4x32mm ProHunter Handgun scope mounted scout style.



Here's my bear hunting rig for when I get my kill permit in a couple years.....1944 Izhevsk M38 Mosin Nagant.


I don't need a new bolt action rifle with a 3-9 power scope chambered in a "hunting caliber" to get done what needs to be done. Bruce I'm not sure why you said you wouldn't use a 7.62x54R for anything larger than a coyote. Its power is between .308 and 30-06 so it has enough KE. I will begin hand loading for it soon but the factory loads will kill a deer fine as I have found out last year. I get about 2.5" groups at 100 yards with the 91/30 using 1980 military surplus ammo so imagine what it would do with hand loaded ammo....If I got the rifle's barrel recrowned it would shoot even better. So it's plenty accurate.

I got a flyer in the mail yesterday that had these rifles (bottom Pic) for $99. 7.62X54. Good buy if it's as good as you say it is. Oh yea at Cabelas. Fall sale or something....

[BruceBruce1959]

Originally Posted by o1sick7

Let me ask everyone a question. How many people can shoot a 1' group at 100 yds with a 3030 iron sight? I sure can't? Does this make it a mini van? Or is it because the ammo? I got some nolser 124gn today. Actual hunting rounds. Does it make my gun a truck? I can name a lot of guns off the top of my head that can't and won't shoot moa at all. But people will praise them as a great deer rifle. And my gun has plenty of energy to kill antelope. And with hunting rounds. Is it still a mini van? If so take all your 3030's and 4570's and basicly every guide gun out there and write mini van on it. I like mine and it groups good for me I'll post pics tomorrow to prove it. So I'll use it.

The .30-30 is a great hunting rifle but wasn't designed to be a long range shooting weapon, the affective range of the .30-30 is approx. 200 yards,
surely you can't expect 1" grouping at 100 yards using a weapon that only only has a 200 yard affective range.
by popularity the .30-30 became the best close, range brush rifle on the market second to none.
It isn't fair to the game animal If someone tries using the .30-30 for more than it's capable of handling.
The .30-30 has probably seen more success than any other rifle on the market for harvesting whitetail deer
but I'd bet statistics would prove that the greater majority were killed at 100 yards or less.

[Hunting Man]

Surplus old military firearms were never intended to be used for hunting when they were produced. Their intent was to produce mass amounts of cheap weapons knowing its owners were short lived. Some military rifles are very accurate, some not. If in your heart, and through sound range time, you know the weapon is sufficiently accurate to harvest game animals in a quick humane way then use it. However, if the old relic is shooting 3" groups at 100 yds then it should be removed from game hunting use and fired at targets only. I saw the Cabela's add and had a moment of should I? Really don't have an use for one.