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03-21-2010, 11:03 AM
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its amazing the technology that has gone into a simple piece of lead in the last oh 10 20 years. its hard to find a bullet that will be optimum in all scenarios out of all calibers. but they are working on it all the time. there are the bt, solids, soft solid, fail safe, hybrids, bonded, partition, soft point, just amazing. then you get into bc's and frontal area. pretty cool if you think about it.
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03-21-2010, 05:47 PM
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| |  left is a 180 grn swift a frame retrieved from a buck,center is a 180 grn barnze retreived from a buck at 221 yards, and last is a nosler 180 grn retreived from a end to end buck 230 lbs. all from a Ruger 300 win mag. No pass throughs and all died with in there tracks , not a one moved !!
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03-21-2010, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by huntr-  left is a 180 grn swift a frame retrieved from a buck,center is a 180 grn barnze retreived from a buck at 221 yards, and last is a nosler 180 grn retreived from a end to end buck 230 lbs. all from a Ruger 300 win mag. No pass throughs and all died with in there tracks , not a one moved !! | is that a nosler ballistic tip?
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03-21-2010, 06:41 PM
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It is . Its a nosler 180 grain accubond ballistic tip, they are white tipped. The Accubond was at 125 yards and the swift a frame was at 75 yards.
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03-21-2010, 09:29 PM
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I use the BT's at the range to punch paper. I use the Accubonds to hunt with. The point of impact on both bullets for me are nearly identical. Both bullets are very accurate. I get good results from Hornady SST bullets. Barnes constructs a great bullet but I refuse to use them due to there high cost.
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03-21-2010, 09:34 PM
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pretty impressive swift a frame bullet. I have some Rem 270's with 140 gr swift a frames loaded, these were for elk. I didn't get to see their performance though.
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03-21-2010, 09:41 PM
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me too hm, the nosler ain't bad. thanks for the pic huntr-
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03-21-2010, 09:43 PM
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The a frame held 90% of its weight. The barnze was 90% also.
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03-22-2010, 09:48 AM
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I guess it just a difference of opinion here. Yes the animals were killed, yes the animal's were harvested. but if a 180 gr. ballistic bullet, fired from a .300 wsm is not going through and through on a 160 pound deer at 82 yards, instead it is fragmenting and not staying together AT ALL, then in my opinion, it is not doing the job that it is designed to do and not doing what they are supposed to do. Quote:
Originally Posted by ronn it sounds like they did their job. bullets shouldn't pass through. they should deliver their full energy in the animal not leave some on the table by passing through. that said i've never been a fan of ballistic tips anyway except for varmnit bullets. always used serria softpoint boat tails and if i hit it it was dead right there. |
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03-22-2010, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by sir smackabuck I guess it just a difference of opinion here. Yes the animals were killed, yes the animal's were harvested. but if a 180 gr. ballistic bullet, fired from a .300 wsm is not going through and through on a 160 pound deer at 82 yards, instead it is fragmenting and not staying together AT ALL, then in my opinion, it is not doing the job that it is designed to do and not doing what they are supposed to do. | i don't think so, maybe. if you read my other post on ballistic tips i'm not a fan for deer size animals but the one in the pic seemed to work, the accubond ballistic tip. through and through is for arrows not bullets that kill by the shock of the cells blowing up like shooting a jug full of water.
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