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Old 04-05-2014, 07:28 PM
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Which of these rifles would you prefer?

Ruger American
Howa Hogue
Weatherby Vangaurd 2(synthetic)

Or let me know if you have a recommendation of a good rifle under $600
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Old 04-07-2014, 05:22 AM
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I don't I would put these guns in the same category myself but
all 3 are good Rifles I am biased as I am a big Ruger fan
I purchased the American in .308 for my daughter 2 years ago & all I can say is for the Price it is an awesome rifle for the features & shootability Ruger has a winner here. I am actually going to do a Video when the snow melts here on one. I don't think you will go wrong with any of the three on your list
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I believe all three of your choices are excellent choices and hard to choose one over the other but if I had to, I would go with the Ruger 1st followed by the Weatherby but I'm sure any one of them will serve you well.
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agree all three are ok rifles, however, none are outstanding to me. I think one could watch the used market, gun shows, auctions ect and find a bit more quality for the money you have to spend and maybe catch a decent scoped used also. Browning, Remington 700's especially a Mountain rifle is a favorite of mine. Good luck in what ever rifle you pick out.
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Old 04-07-2014, 04:37 PM
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The Weatherby Vangards are made by Howa in Japan. Howa also made the Smith and Wesson Bolt Action rifles. Howa actions are all made of machined steel and are a very strong two lug design. I am sure that they have a one piece machined bolt which I consider the most important part.
Using their machined action Howa rifles are heavier than say a Remington that is made on a tubelar steel action. That is also why Winchester M70's are usually heavier than the Rem M700, Winchesters are machined steel actions. Ruger is using a multi-piece welded 3 lug bolt in the Ruger American. Their Ruger M77 is a machined one piece bolt. The Ruger American is a rifle built with all the modern methods to make it cheaper to build. A tubelar steel action setting in v blocks for a solid mount. Ruger uses the Savage barrel attachment system and a version of the Savage trigger system. Again I think this type of barrel and trigger system is easier for Manufacturing requiring less gunsmithing. Ruger also uses a plastic stock that once the mound is made costs very little to make. The Weatherby vangards are available in either plastic or wood stocks and I would prefer a wood stock over a plastic one. At this time I don't know of a wood stocked version of the Ruger American. It would push up the price toward the M77 which has a fine wood stock. For a rifle to be sold in the 300-400 dollar range the company can not charge very much to the wholesalers for each rifle.

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Which of these rifles would you prefer?


Ruger American
Howa Hogue
Weatherby Vangaurd 2(synthetic)

Or let me know if you have a recommendation of a good rifle under $600

All would be decent serviceable rifles. That said, the Weatherby Vangaurd 2 would be my choice every day and twice on Sundays.

I would suggest you take a few minutes and review this article. Good Luck with whichever rifle you choose!

Bolt Action Economy Rifles Compared
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which is why I favor the older stuff even though the price can be higher I pretty much know what I am getting, "QUALITY"! New stuff has little flavor for me unless its way out on price and then I can't buy it any ways. You get what you pay for, still has merit.
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which is why I favor the older stuff even though the price can be higher I pretty much know what I am getting, "QUALITY"! New stuff has little flavor for me unless its way out on price and then I can't buy it any ways. You get what you pay for, still has merit.
Amen to that! I hunt with many rifles as old or nearly as old as I am. Unfortunately many new hunters are apparently not as as attracted to nice blued & walnut stocked rifles as is an old geezer like me.
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Us old guys need to stick together. You never know when one of us is going to help getting that HUGE Deer back to the truck.

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