130 grain vs. 150?
I've had a beautiful Remington Model 700 .270 handed down to me from a family member, so I'm looking for ammo. I've seen that 130 grain bullets generally have a little more velocity and power than the 150's. Is there any big difference between the two? I've only ever used 150s in my old 30-30. I usually don't shoot more than 100 yards, but if the opportunity arises, will a 130 take a buck down cleanly at 100-150 yards?
I've got four in mind right now:
Fiocchi 270HSB (150)
Hornady 140gr SST
Winchester Supreme Elite XP3 (in 150 or 130)
Federal Premium VitalShok (w/ 140gr Trophy Bonded Bear Claw)
Any advice or opinions would be greatly appreciated.
I would say that with out a doubt a 130 is big enough for deer. The difference between 130 and150 is the 130 will be flatter shooting being faster, way faster than the 30/30. The 150 will deliver more energy being heavier. velocity X mass = force. The 243 for deer would be between 90 and 117 gr and will do a fine job out to about 250, 300 yards. Shot placement is the key to any caliber and bullet. The difference in drop between the 2 weights you mentioned at 150yards probably wouldn't be more than 1 inch difference. The rifle being new to you, your goal should be to find the bullet that gives you the best group regardless of the weight. that way when you make that 200 yard shot you are confident that bullet is going where you put it. Just guessing but 1 inch high at 100 would make you between 3" and 4 " low at 300yards. Outstanding deer gun.
The 150 gr in the 270 is tops for weight, a good 130-140 gr bullet works great in the 270 cal.
Man, a .270 with a 130 grainer will kill any deer just as well as ANY bullet of any caliber or any weight at any reasonable shooting distance. Read some of the late Jack O'connor's exploits with that caliber and bullet for proof of its effectiveness.
Also, there has been a "new" trend to lighter faster, more sturdily constructed bullets. It seems that bullets like the Barnes TSX will not only completely penetrate anything, but will deliver just about all of their energy into the animal while doing it.
The March issue of "Rifle" magazine has two super articles about this. In one, a gunmaker, took a 7mm STW (Shooting Times Westerner) and necked down to .25 caliber. He calls this cartridge a ".257 Hot Tamale". He loaded 100 grain Barnes TTSX bullets into this wildcat which had a muzzle velocity of 4110 feet per sec. - you read that right - 4110 FPS! He took this on a bison hunt in South Dakota and killed a 2500 pound bull with it. But here's the thing, this "Little" 100 grain bullet went right through both shoulders of the bull and dropped it in its tracks! The solid copper bullet goes right through while expanding and NOT breaking up.
I'm loading up some of these bullets for my .270 WSM and .300 WSM for next season. I'm not sure if these Barnes bullets are loaded commercially for the .270 yet, but there are several bullets out there that are available of great quality with similar performance. Hornady makes a "light Magnum" .270 Win. with a 130 grainer that has a muzzle velocity over 3200 FPS. As Jack O'Connor and Roy Weatherby would have said in their day, "Speed Kills!" and at 3,215 FPS, the 130 grain bullet in the .270 has speed to spare.
my ruger hawkeye 30/06 likes winchester super X in 150's ive always had good luck with them
I don't know much about a 270 but my Rem 710 3006 works well with 150 grain. But I do hear alot of positive raving about the Hornady products.
I use to handload all my bullets. Hornady started making ammo that's was as consistent so that's what I went with. What I'm saying is I really like hornady.
i shoot a 130 grain bullet out of my .270 and i think that a 130 grain bullet shoots better
i like hornady too cept the price.but ya get what ya pay for with them
for me it shoots best. no price tag on that.
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