One horse, thought you'd might like to hear about the PA camp I belong to. It sets on top of a mountain, close to a nice stream. We built a two story camp all propane, no electric, no TV, no phone. We have a nice spring house for water supply in front of camp and we have a steam sauna out back to relax in. The camp sets down in a hollow surrounded by rock ledges and hemlock trees. The camp's name is the Hemlock Hollow Camp go figure. I also hunt with a good friend in the UP of Michigan with nearly the same set-up. I have been most lucky to have hooked up with good friends who enjoyed hunting. I was able to hunt with my dad, and brother, and now my son. Not much in life is better than that. My dad no longer hunts and I lost my brother in 2000, my son has turned into a pretty good hunter himself with bow/rifle. Keep in touch I enjoy our conversations.