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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 05-29-2013, 05:47 PM Thread Starter
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Rifle Recoil

Question about recoil in hunting rifles. Will a .270 and a 30-06 of the same rifle make/model have the same recoil if they shoot a similar round, such as the .270 shooting a 130gr 3060fps and the 30-06 shooting a 125gr 3140fps? I guess what I'm asking is that if all things are equal, would two different caliber guns produce identical recoil if shooting bullets of same grain and fps? I noticed from this website that this doesn't appear to be the case based on the energy's listed. Rifle Recoil Table

I actually notice from that table that there are some "optimum" impact relative to recoil rounds, such as the 308 in 150gr, 2800fps variety. I was just using basic MV^2/recoilenergy calculations, because obviously the optimum round produces high impact with low recoil energy.
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post #2 of 6 (permalink) Old 05-30-2013, 06:03 AM
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I would say NO my experience with the .270 my Fav. cal
I have shot identical rifles & ammo & have had different recoil
hard to explian but I kind of notice say the Ruger American rifle in 30.06 & .308 has kind of a push but in the .270 it is more like a punch
this all could be just me

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well my Rem 700 mountain rifle in 270 has a rather sharp kick whereas my Rem 760 pump in 30-06 is a more pronounced reward push. I know we use terms that are hard to visualize but most recoil has to do with the weight of the rifle. I'm not talking big magnums which all seem to bark pretty hard to me. I've shot 338 win, 444 marlin but the 300 weatherby was a handful for me and all I would want. My 300 Savage is about as tame in recoil as a 243.
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This is an action/reaction question of physics. If two projectiles (bullets) of the same weight are moving forward or shot at the same velocity, they produce the same amount of energy. The bullet moves forward (action), the rifle moves backward (reaction). If the two rifles are identical, weigh the same, have the same recoil pad, etc., then the physical recoil (reaction) would be the same. BUT recoil also has a mental component which is very personal from shooter to shooter. This is why we see so many conflicting answers to a question like this. Regardless of the physics, we all feel the recoil differently. We have different tolerances when it comes to recoil. I once read that some large shooters have less tolerance then smaller shooters. Since they don't get pushed back as much as smaller folks, they absorb more recoil. Don't know if this is true, but it is clear that this is not as simple of a question as it might seem.

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Rifle Recoil... Not all feel the same..

Everything said has been correct but I would like to point out the importance of a quality stock that fits and a good recoil pad. I have shot a bunch of 30-06s. I have used the same reload of a 165gr Nosler BT with the same amount of Win 760 powder. Some of those rifles for me are very unpleasent to shoot, while others I have no problem firing 50 rounds. I am glad that I didn't write off the 30-06 before I found one I love to shoot.

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Recoil is an enactment of basic physics: for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. In order for the recoil to be the same, you have to be throwing that bullet (same grain) out the muzzle at the same speed (muzzle velocity). If they aren't similar, neither will be the recoil. Kinetic energy OUT the barrel equals the kinetic energy pushing your body backwards. What will affect the recoil is the weight of the rifle (heavier is better), recoil pads, and so forth.

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