Ladyhunter, sometimes pictures can be a little deceiving, but the pics you have are really nice and clear and close up, and when it comes to 8 pointers it REALLY takes alot of antler to get a decent score for the simple reason that they are only 8 pointers. But even so, and maybe I'm wrong, but I really think he goes a little better than 127. You should measure him yourself, it's really easy to score a typical, go to the B&C website and they give you a diagram to follow and step by step measuring. Once you familiarize yourself with the procedure you can measure him in about 5 minutes. Seriously, it is really that simple. But I do understand that you want him scored officially for entry into the Arkansas state records. Good luck, hope he gets recognized in the book, as well as you too!! Once again, GREAT JOB killing 2 fine deer!!