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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 01-01-2010, 06:20 PM Thread Starter
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Help please

I am new to this site and really like what I am seeing.

Ok so I am just going to throw it out there. I have never owned a gun with a scope. I do hunt but mostly ducks/geese and bowhunt when I do go for deer. I only started really deer hunting about 4 or 5 years ago. I recently won a .22 and instead of taking it, I traded it in on a T/C Triumph. I would like to put a scope on it but don't know anything about scopes. I don't know what the numbers mean for the most part. Do I need something specifically for a muzzleloader or does it really matter. What are good mounts for the scope too? Where is a good place to purchase and get a good deal?

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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 01-01-2010, 07:19 PM
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scope numbers stand for the magnification and diameter of the lens you are looking through.

4X20 = 4 times magnification and 20 mm objective lens.

3-9X40 = adjustable 3-9 times magnification and a 40 mm objective lens.

You will get alot of different thoughts on scopes.. In my book buy the best scope you can afford.

On my T/C Triumph I have a 3-9x40 Nikon Prostaff with Weaver rings and bases. So far it has served me well enough.

Thanks for joining up. There are a lot of hunters on here that no tons more than myself so be sure and come back to read some more responses.
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x20 or x40 refers to the objective lense in millimeters correct. I take it this is the diameter of the lense. Correct me if I am wrong. What is the real difference? Does this let more light in or does it give a larger field of view?

On the front side of it the 3-9x20 would refer to magnifying the object 3 to 9 times more than the naked eye can see. Is this correct?
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I have a Leupold 3X9X40 rifleman series scope on my TC Triumph. On a muzzleloader/shotgun you need extended eye relief scopes designed for the gun. With good glass you will get more light gathering quality and clearity with a larger objective lens. However, you also may need higher mounts to clear the barrel which may change how the gun fits you when you pull it up. Pick a brand name scope in your price range and have a qualified person install it for you. I don't see where you need anything more than a 3x9x40. I prefer low mounts and never use see through mounts.
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x20 or x40 refers to the objective lense in millimeters correct. I take it this is the diameter of the lense. Correct me if I am wrong. What is the real difference? Does this let more light in or does it give a larger field of view?

On the front side of it the 3-9x20 would refer to magnifying the object 3 to 9 times more than the naked eye can see. Is this correct?

Yes objective lense is in millimeters. The higher the lense objective is (mm) the larger field of view you will have and I am pretty sure that you will have more light entering the scope as well. With the 3-9x20 you are right about the object magnification and the 20 is like trying to look at something through a straw if compared to a 40 or 50. I was pretty much schooled in scopes here at DHC by our helpful members. Welcome aboard!!!!!!
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post #6 of 10 (permalink) Old 01-02-2010, 03:17 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the help guys. Now my last question.

What is eye relief referring too? I have an idea but not sure. Thanks........
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post #7 of 10 (permalink) Old 01-02-2010, 03:21 PM
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RE: I, like The Tim, am amused at the chioce of Obama for the Peace Prize, but probably for somewhat different reasons. I think that in today's world, Obama was a good chioce for the prize for reasons I will articulate in limited detail to avoid needlessly boring everyone. But I'm both saddened and amused by the fact that the bar for consideration in the form of the actions of world leaders has been set so low that one who many say has as yet only talked the talk, would be judged to have accomplished the most to further the cause of peace. If the bar gets set much lower, they'll have to start doing the limbo to pick the winner or everyone who hasn't needlessly shot somebody will have to be considered a candidate. I hate to make the grounds for consideration so unnecessarily difficult, but you have to set some standards to rule out awarding the prize to Dick Cheney.In my opinion the battle for peace is only minimally about Ahmadinegad and Obama. It's really about the generation of 10 yr old children that will be in their shoes in 30 years. Lasting peace comes through trust, respect and a shared and interdependent economic future, not just through military victory. You don't win the hearts and minds of a generation by denying justice, human rights or a reasonable livelihood to their parents and families. Trust can take years to build, but only a minimal amount of collateral damage to destroy. Peace hopefully can be accomplished through discussion, mutual trust and cooperation without the need for domination and intimidation. There may be a form of peace when only one is left standing, but I don't think that's what the Peace Prize is ment to embody. If you say that I'm unreasonably idealistic and impractical, you may be right. But if you believe that speaking softly has no place and peace comes only by wielding a big stick, you've already lost the moral high ground where human rights and respect take precedence over preemptive strikes and overwhelming force. In my opinion the hope spawned by Obama that the most powerful nation in the world will occupy the high ground in the eyes of the rest of the world is the underlying reason that the Nobel Committee chose Obama. Peace is founded on trust, and upon the hope and courage to risk the disappointment of that trust. I've never read The Audacity of Hope, but the concept that phrase embodies is part of the underly basis of any peace not grounded in domination or intimidation. Rate this comment: 0 0

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Boy ronn that is a good description of eye relief. For me eye relief is the distance between the scope and where you"d like it to be except into the top of your nose. some of us are slow learners. lol
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Boy ronn that is a good description of eye relief. For me eye relief is the distance between the scope and where you"d like it to be except into the top of your nose. some of us are slow learners. lol
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Couple of hunting buddies have reminders also, right above their left eyes. I'm still clean.
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