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BruceBruce1959 08-14-2012 04:33 PM

Tradition Vortek LDR Wins Best of the Best again
 
Traditions Vortek LDR Wins Field and Streams Best of the Best Award again for 2012.



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Hunting Man 08-14-2012 05:32 PM

Never thought much of F&S anyway!

frontiergander 08-14-2012 08:19 PM

its a real nice gun but it needs some tweaking to get it just right. Would prefer SS as well. That thin steel barrel would get hot after only a couple shots.

BruceBruce1959 08-15-2012 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrontierGander (Post 71424)
its a real nice gun but it needs some tweaking to get it just right. Would prefer SS as well. That thin steel barrel would get hot after only a couple shots.

FG, I haven't had any problems with my barrel getting hot, ever,
and anyone that feels the need to tweak a weapon that shoots sub-moa out of the box
probably has a lengthy history of dealing with poor shooting or low quality weapons that always required tweaking!

quigleysharps4570 08-15-2012 11:39 AM

Sounds like you've a shooter for sure BB. ;)

frontiergander 08-15-2012 04:30 PM

i shoot over 5,000 rounds year from an assortment of muzzleloaders that the Vortek while a nice gun would start throwing shots after 2 shots out the barrel. A good solid 5 minute cool down was needed in order to achieve solid accuracy. The trigger shape is also uncomfortable and tends to make you pull in an upward motion, increasing the trigger pulls feel. That was one huge reason I did not do an entire lot of shooting. They need to straighten that trigger design out and then add a good recoil pad, then it will be almost perfect.

The ceracoat itself is easily scratched off.

We'll see how my cva accura mountain rifle compares.

Hunting Man 08-15-2012 10:40 PM

BB, it's a great looking rifle.

BruceBruce1959 08-16-2012 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrontierGander (Post 71441)
i shoot over 5,000 rounds year from an assortment of muzzleloaders that the Vortek while a nice gun would start throwing shots after 2 shots out the barrel. A good solid 5 minute cool down was needed in order to achieve solid accuracy. The trigger shape is also uncomfortable and tends to make you pull in an upward motion, increasing the trigger pulls feel. That was one huge reason I did not do an entire lot of shooting. They need to straighten that trigger design out and then add a good recoil pad, then it will be almost perfect.

The ceracoat itself is easily scratched off.

We'll see how my cva accura mountain rifle compares.

FG, Out of all the expert shooters that compared the Vortek against other ML'er's, you're the only one that claims these issues.
I think I'd rather value their findings vs. yours.

let's take a look at just one review by Randy Smith from ChuckHawks,com here are a couple quotes from his review.


CeraKote coating;

"The Vortek features a CeraKote ceramic anti-corrosive coating of the frame assembly.
I often carry Traditions muzzleloaders by the frame just behind the forearm.
I learned to monitor the frame for rust from perspiration or contamination in wet or hot weather.
The new CeraKote frame coating makes maintenance and regular inspection of this area of the gun much less critical"
"The solid stainless steel barrel is much less likely to become discolored from powder contamination, as was the case
with the former C-Nickel finish. The barrel is 360-degree ported to help reduce muzzle jump.
A 1:28” twist, 28” fluted barrel balances very nicely with the rest of the rifle and creates the sensation of an extremely well balanced rifle.
The Vortek’s balance, heft and excellent trigger design blend to create an easy to shoot and accurate muzzleloader."



Trigger assembly;

"Remove one screw and the entire trigger assembly drops out for thorough cleaning.
Trigger pull is light with minimal creep and over-travel. The trigger guard is generously proportioned to allow easy access for heavily gloved fingers.
Experienced riflemen will tell you that trigger quality will make or break any premium firearm design.

The Traditions company has got this trigger right and it dramatically enhances long range accuracy
."



Accuracy;
Nobody disputes the Vortek's Superior accuracy except FrontierGander !

frontiergander 08-16-2012 11:54 AM

i dont dispute the accuracy, the problem is the thin barrel and the fast heat build up. The trigger broke around 48oz which was fine, the design of the "curl" on the trigger was one thing i did not like at all. When you shoot as much as i do, its important to have a comfortable trigger. A trigger design off a rem700 would be pretty sweet.

And i personally dont care what chuck hawks website has to say, its full of mostly bull crud on there. I dont get paid to kiss butt like some of those websites have to do.


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