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Old 05-19-2011, 02:43 PM
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Default 50 cal Hawken

Im fixing to buy a .50 cal Hawken and was wondering about a good load for deer?I have an inline and use the powerbelts,can I use these in the Hawken?
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Old 05-19-2011, 04:24 PM
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My father in law has a .45 caliber hawken and he uses a 150 grain sabot and measures 120 grains of traditional blackpowder with decent results. Give the powerbelts a shot what do you have to lose they either work or they do not. On a personal note I use sabots in both my inlines, the accuracy is far better from what I can see.
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Old 05-19-2011, 05:26 PM
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depends on the brand. We need that info before we can help. Is it a cva, traditions, tc, lyman?
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Old 05-19-2011, 05:29 PM
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My TC Firehawk will shoot sabot or TC maxi-hunters. Hawken rifles may shoot a conical better as the barrel twist is usually 1-48" and will stabelize a conical. I'd start with 90 grains of 777 and or 3f black powder if you want to be more tradional, then go to 100 gr after you get on paper. You may find a TC maxi-hunter or a Buffalo bullet will shoot pretty well if the sabots won't group for you. In all due respect the 120 gr of black powder in a 45 cal is way over kill and might be over the max charge rating for the barrel, something to check on. I only shoot 110 gr of 2f in my 54 Hawken.

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Old 05-20-2011, 03:36 PM
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Not sure were he came up with 120 grains for a charge. I know it says nothing on the barrel about a maximum charge, personally I shoot a hundred grains out of my inline and feel that may be a little much for the distances I usually shoot.
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Old 05-22-2011, 07:22 PM
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Most Hawkens have slow twist rates, 1 in 48" as mentioned. That is why heavy sabots do not shoot well. A standard round ball only weighs 180 grains. I use 190 grain lea sabots from Cabela's with good results. I use 85 grains of 3f, as is ignites better with percussion caps. Had a lot of misfires using 2f powder.
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Old 05-22-2011, 08:13 PM
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45 and 50 cal rifles usually fire better with 3f, 54 and above 2f.
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Old 05-25-2011, 01:08 PM
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A PRB is all you need for deer. .530 ball...015 patch...80gr of real BP.

Putting a modern load in a Hawken is like kissing your sister.
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Old 05-25-2011, 04:05 PM
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Muley, i think his first post was buying a 50 cal which would be either a 490 or 495 ball depending on patch thickness and barrel bore, otherwise I agree with the rest of your post! Black powder is the only way I go with Hawken style rifles especially the flintlocks. The 50's get 100gr of 3f and the 54 gets 110gr of 2f. With these loads I've never seen black unburned powder in the snow, indicating full charge burn. The Hawken book I have says the 52 cals were loaded with as much as 120 gr on a regular basis even with powder guarded like fort knox.
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Old 05-25-2011, 04:38 PM
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My bad. I'm so used to loading my .54, I had a brain fade. Of course a .490 ball. I like the smaller ball and thicker patches.
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