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Old 03-16-2011, 03:37 PM
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The hard loading is with TC super glides and with barnes bullets, no difference.
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Old 03-16-2011, 03:47 PM
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I'm not sure what the problem is with your gun.

I can't get a second sabot loaded when I use T7. I get stuck at the crud ring. One time I tried to clean the crud ring, and the patch got stuck. I was hunting and had to go home to remove the ramrod. That's when I threw out all the T7 I had.

Now, i'm not exaggerating. I can shoot my Omega for 30 shots with tight sabots and not swab using BH 209. This is really important to me. I refuse to swab while hunting, and now I don't have to with BH 209. I don't even bother taking a jag or patches with me anymore. I take 5-6 speedloaders with powder, bullets and primers held in them, and all I need is the gun ramrod to load. It's a simple system that I love. A 2nd shot is actually an option now.

BH 209 has made muzzleloading fun now.
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Old 03-16-2011, 04:14 PM
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The hard loading is with TC super glides and with barnes bullets, no difference.
Most omega users will use the crush rib sabots. They also have learned to use JB Bore paste 60 passes minimum to help smooth out the tc bores. It really helps these guys a lot with loading. One guy would basically have to beat even the crush rib sabots down the bore even on a clean barrel. The jb bore paste is something you really should look into.

BH209 cleans up super easy for me, even in my non bore coated barrels.

When you go to clean up BH209, run at least 2 to 3 dry patches down the bore first, this collects and removes the loose fouling that normally would turn to sludge if you did not dry swab. It makes a huge difference.
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Old 03-16-2011, 04:23 PM
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I usually run a brush first just to loosen things up.
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Old 03-16-2011, 04:26 PM
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brush is surely a good idea, i actually prefer using the nylon bore brush as they seem to have been doing a better job at getting into the little nooks and crannies in the rifling.

But dry swab first! 2 to 3 patches minimum, run your brush, flip a used patch over onto a clean side and run it down, follow up with your cleaner.

What cleaner are you using?
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Old 03-16-2011, 04:41 PM
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I never tried a dry patch first. Here's how I do it.

I use Butch's Bore Shine.

I run a soak patch of Butch's down and flip it over and down again.

I repeat with another soaked patch. Let it sit for 1 minute.

Then 3-4 dry patches and the bore sparkles.

A patch of Break Free to protect.

Then I twist an 1/8" drill in the flash channel, and then soak the BP in a small tub of Butch's for 10 minutes.

Then wipe off the BP and install with no lube on the threads. It's not needed with BH 209.

I'm done.

Right before shooting again I run two dry patches in the bore to remove the Break Free.
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Old 03-16-2011, 05:17 PM
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the butches bore shine is some great stuff! Hoppes #9 tended to harden the fouling and make it harder to clean.
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Old 03-17-2011, 06:36 AM
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The easiest to clean BH209 for me has been CVA foaming barrel blaster. I pull the plug, stuff a patch in that end, spray the foam, let it sit for 10 minutes while cleaning the plug, 3 patches later squeaky clean, a little Montana conditioner in the bore, done. 15 minutes total time.
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Old 03-17-2011, 06:42 AM
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Butch's bore shine for me too.
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Old 03-17-2011, 10:15 AM
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The easiest to clean BH209 for me has been CVA foaming barrel blaster. I pull the plug, stuff a patch in that end, spray the foam, let it sit for 10 minutes while cleaning the plug, 3 patches later squeaky clean, a little Montana conditioner in the bore, done. 15 minutes total time.
I'm surprised that works. I thought it was a black powder cleaner?
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