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Old 12-12-2010, 11:45 PM
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Lightbulb Misfire Issue

Under the weather conditions you described IMO it's definitely moisture contaminated powder caused by leaving the can open on the bench. I use 777 pellets and ALWAYS close the box as soon as I put the pellets in the gun. I also swab between every shot AND fire 1 primer before loading to ensure a dry barrel.
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Old 12-13-2010, 12:20 PM
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CVA Wolf [original]-bh 209-Winchester shot shell primers-powerbelt 295 hollow point.
There have it then!

Get some cci 209m primers or winchester w209's. You need a #65 drill bit so you can enlarge your breech plugs flash hole to BH209's recommended .035" flash hole. You can also use a 1/8" drill bit and enlarge the plugs flash channel as well.

That will have you up and running again! Also dont get cheap on seating pressure. BH209 needs a good amount of seating pressure or else, poof!

For now though, you can find a 3mm or #32 drill bit and clean that plugs flash channel out, It carbons up fast with BH209.
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Old 12-13-2010, 12:29 PM
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ThreeUnder, the LAST thing you want to do is be drilling out a breech plug and for anyone to suggest such a remedy is WAY off base.

Who's going to be liable for any mishaps if you're weapon explodes in your face due to the fact that you drilled out the breech plug?

FrontierGander, do you really think telling someone to drill out their breech plug is a good idea? I mean come on, If you want to put yourself in harms way then Go for it BUT you shouldn't be offering advice that could possibly have a fatal outcome.
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Old 12-13-2010, 12:35 PM
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ThreeUnder, the LAST thing you want to do is be drilling out a breech plug and for anyone to suggest such a remedy is WAY off base.

Who's going to be liable for any mishaps if you're weapon explodes in your face due to the fact that you drilled out the breech plug?

FrontierGander, do you really think telling someone to drill out their breech plug is a good idea? I mean come on, If you want to put yourself in harms way then Go for it BUT you shouldn't be offering advice that could possibly have a fatal outcome.
Bruce, before you stick your foot into your mouth, This is Western Powders cure for the CVA plugs that are having trouble shooting BH209. The flash hole is to small and limits the heat thats gets to the powder causing either a POP - no fire or a hissing- poop effect when the powder barely lights up and the bullet goes skipping across the ground 20 feet in front of you.

Contact Don Luhr and he will recommend drilling out the flash hole with a #65 drill bit. Western Powders will do the plug for the person Free of charge.
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Old 12-13-2010, 12:39 PM
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IF CVA wants to be telling their customers to drill out their breech plugs, putting their customers in harms way then so be it, that's up to CVA to decide how to handle their problems but for YOU to tell someone to do something like that stupid is plain ridiculous.
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Old 12-13-2010, 12:42 PM
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actually CVA is working with Western Powders right now to design a plug thats 100% reliable with BH209.

Like i said, Contact Don Luhr over at western powders, he will teach you.
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If Don Luhr or anyone else tells people to "DRILL" out a part to correct a misfire, and somewhere down the road one of those weapons he had some customer drill out explodes causing someone to die then Don Luhr needs to have his head examined as much as you do for passing along such lame advice.
If there's a Breech plug problem using bh209 then you should let the Breech plug manufacturer deal with the solution...
You shouldn't offer advice that could get someone killed.
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Old 12-13-2010, 01:09 PM
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A .035" flash hole wont cause anything to explode. I think i read somewhere on toby bridges website that traditions uses a .034 - .036" flash hole on the vortex
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and the difference may be,,, the Traditions Vortek may have been designed to handle the larger flash hole,
the question to CVA should be, Are their weapons designed to handle the larger flash hole and are they prepared to Guarantee that by drilling out a larger flash hole, the weapon is still "SAFE" for the shooter.... BUT that's for CVA to decide not for you or anyone else including Don Luhr to decide..
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Old 12-13-2010, 01:30 PM
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I would tend to agree that CVA would put out a notice, "problem with a design" and a new fix solution under warranty. If I choose to alter anything I'm not going to suggest it to someone else and it's at my own personal risk to do so. I have and do use an appropriate drill bit/small screw driver using slight finger power to clean out flash holes, primer channels ect.
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