gfdeputy2 and all you other CVA owners I was only joking when I said it takes an hour to clean a CVA muzzle loader, I said it just to pull on frontierganders leg a little..
the Video I linked to CVA's cleaning a muzzleloader has a part in it where they apply a foaming bore cleaner and one guy says to the other something like, lets let that sit for an hour to let that work... thus causing the cleaning process to take more than an hour to complete...
I really didn't intend to ruffle anyones feathers here except for frontierganders and he didnt even bite on it..
I have owned several CVA muzzleloaders, CVA has come a long way, their muzzleloaders harvest many wildlife annually just as their more expensive competitors muzzle loaders do.
As far as me personally boasting about Traditions muzzleloading products that all started as friendly debate between huntingman and myself and continues today but it's all in fun and anyone that reads my posts should remember me saying a couple times, when a product like my Muzzle loader comes between me and a fellow hunter, I'd rather throw it in a fire and melt it than lose a friendhsip.. and you can take that to the bank.