Trade in my Wolf for a Triumph??

[BruceBruce1959]

Originally Posted by Hunting Man

BB, this is one area you and I will dissagree. TC makes far and above the best muzzleloading products period. Knight rifles I thought ran a very close second followed by the rest in a decending order. Just like most things in life you generally get what you pay for. With that said, all of them will shoot. Take a look on line and see which ones hold their value better, a sign of high quality. I do get to make comparisions as I've owned several CVA, Lyman, TC muzzleloaders. I'm not bashing any makes, but you'd be hard pressed to make me a believer that TC is not #1. Spend your money wisely the first time and you'll be happy you did.

I totally agree T/C is the #1 muzzleloader on the market today but that's by popularity not necessarily due to quality or design.
Sadly they are over priced and I hope they don't but I'm afraid they're going to price themselves right out of the market especially to someone shopping on a budget.
All the others are capable of marketing good quality rifles, some with more features than T/C offers.
I think it's greed but I don't wish them any bad luck I just hope they become more affordable in the future.

[Hunting Man]

You have to be doing something right to be #1. If they are so over priced how can they hold that position? I'm not trying to be hardheaded on this one BB, but the difference is stark and I agree the price difference is substantial, but hunters across the country are choosing quality and paying for it. Tonight, I won an auction for an older CVA Mountain rifle 50 cal in flint, these were pretty good quality at the time and shot well for the money. This will be for my son/son-in-law to hunt PA late season, with that said its no TC.

[fla shooter]

TO each his own I love my CVA Accura

[phillymac23]

Well I went down to my local store and traded in the Wolf and now I have a Triumph. The were out of black scope mounts so I won't be able to mount the scope yet but all in all I feel better about this one. Wish I would have listened to my brother-in-law before I bought the Wolf but hey live and learn.

[gunrunner]

Just a note about the CVA barrels exploding post earlier.

"Their problems they had back in the 90's came from cheap Spanish barrels. They now use for the most part Bergara barrels which are top of the line."

Many people are under the impression that "Bergara Barrels" is a longstanding premium barrel manufacturer. Not true. I kept hearing about this so I did a little research. Bergara Barrels is owned by BPI, the owner of CVA, and was created in 2006. The name comes from the town, Bergara, Spain where the manufacturer is located. If you go the to Blackpowder Products Inc website at BPI and click on the "History" page you will see this information.

Just thought I'd pass that along. I don't have any experience with the barrels or CVA so I can't evaluate further but I'll stick with my American made T/C's for now.

[little nj hunter]

i have a wolf and i love it

[tbighunter]

Wow,some of these answers are very interesting.Well here is mine,I agree 100% with Bruce.As a Knight owner I will never own any other.It is about how much money you can spend and about hype and prestige.We all want to brag about the things we own,about them being better than other makes,right?That don't mean they are.I love Knight and I'm sure I always will,are they the best?They are to me.But,probably not to you.When you are watching hunting shows,which one has the most commercials?T/C of course.So,if they spend the most money on advertising,makes sense they would be #1 and #1 on being the most costly,advertising costs alot of money.But,they are owned by Smith and Wesson.One thing I will also agree with is that T/C DOES make a very high quality firearm,one that I am sure will last your lifetime with the proper care.

[Hunting Man]

One thing that everyone gets here is an equal opinion. I wish Knight would haved stayed in business and I can't see how they didn't make it. Knight rifles made significant improvements to the in-line muzzleloader market. I endorse TC products because they are high quality and have never let me down. Just my 2 cents worth opinion.

[WisconsinDeer]

Originally Posted by Hunting Man

One thing that everyone gets here is an equal opinion. I wish Knight would haved stayed in business and I can't see how they didn't make it. Knight rifles made significant improvements to the in-line muzzleloader market. I endorse TC products because they are high quality and have never let me down. Just my 2 cents worth opinion.

I'm not sure about this but I was told that someone else was going to buy the company and continue making the rifles. I sure hope someone does.

[cloven hoofed stalker]

i do believe its a matter of personal choice i will say t/c barrels are high quality though but is what tickles your personal fancy . you want it get it is my motto lol! but my triumph pulls 1 in to 3/4 in groups at 200 yrds it all depends on your sabot i use barnes spitfire tmz expanders they are boat tailed and super accurate just not super cheap