noob question

hunt NH · #1 (**permalink**) 08-25-2009, 11:53 PM

ok my uncle is big on casting his owen conicals for muzzleloaders and is convinced that this is the way i should go. we are good friends with a guy who runs the local gun shop and he seems to think that sabots are the way to go. at first i was thinking that the price diff, and my uncles confedence in conicals enuff to go on. but now i am thinking that if i cast my own rounds that there is no way to cast them all to the exact same grain count. and that because of this i could not get the acuracy out of them i could get with a sabbot. am i over thinking it, or will the difference of a few grains afect the acuracy of the shot?

wmi · #2 (**permalink**) 08-26-2009, 08:11 AM

I think sabots are the way to go because of better gas seal, consistency, as well increasing the life of your barrel. Muzzle loaders have so many small variables that if you can keep them narrowed down any way you can it will only make you better down range. Conicals also tend to be much heavier so not to be as flat shooting. I have been shooting muzzle loaders for all of my gun season deer hunting for about 20 years so believe me when I say I have tried everything on the market. Hope this helps.

deerless · #3 (**permalink**) 08-26-2009, 09:10 AM

I think your right about the grains being different affecting your consistency. Really the only way to know is to try the conicals for yourself. Good Luck!

gfdeputy2 · #4 (**permalink**) 08-26-2009, 04:01 PM

I agree with WMI
I love the powerbelts myself

tbighunter · #5 (**permalink**) 08-26-2009, 07:25 PM

Sabots are the only thing I have shot in the last 15 years or so.I think they shoot great.

Rozman62 · #6 (**permalink**) 08-27-2009, 06:05 PM

Powerbelts work fine up to 80-85gr of powder. Once you get up over that and the bullet exceeds 1800-ish fps then then the bullet starts to lose accuracy and expansion becomes an issue. The little plastic skirt and the undersized bullet allow outgassing effecting the accuracy. I have taken a few deer with them. All recovered but poor blood trails. Hit some muzzleloader forums and you will find general consensus on this.

hunt NH · #7 (**permalink**) 08-27-2009, 09:19 PM

so what is a good sabbot for 100 grains.

wmi · #8 (**permalink**) 08-27-2009, 10:16 PM

I have very good luck with Barnes hollow points or the new t/c's. Barnes works awesome out of a Knight but are tough to get down a T/C,

hunt NH · #9 (**permalink**) 08-27-2009, 11:43 PM

were can i find these Barnes hollow points ?

Rozman62 · #10 (**permalink**) 08-28-2009, 11:54 AM

Try the Barnes TMZ .451/50 cal. 24/box at $25.72/ea from Midsouth Shooters Supply. They are pricey but constructed from solid copper and retain a high % of there weight in ballistic gel tests. This is the boatail version. The flat base version is the TEZ which alot of people have good luck with out of Knight guns.