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Old 01-26-2009, 01:23 AM
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Default .25 acp breech plug?

been thinkin about switching over to one of these ,anyone out there use one ? can you tell any difference? i dont know whether to beleive the hype about the 209 primers being too much bang or not .would rather hear from some guys who have made the switch and get the real story.
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Old 01-26-2009, 06:52 AM
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209's are fine. You can buy the ones for ML guns made by Winchester if you are worried about it. It is just like everything else out there someone is always trying to make a buck by creating false need. Everyone talks the talk especially when they are getting paid for it. In this day and age the best sense you have is your nose for BS. The problem is most of this type of hype has to have just enough truth to help sell the product. Save your money.
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been thinkin about switching over to one of these ,anyone out there use one ? can you tell any difference? i dont know whether to beleive the hype about the 209 primers being too much bang or not .would rather hear from some guys who have made the switch and get the real story.
I am not familiar with the .25 acp conversion but if there is a conversion available to you,
you first have to understand you're not converting to a more powerful powder charge,
the conversion to 209 primers is only the source of Ignition.
209 primers are currently the most reliable ignition source available today.

I hope someone can offer more info with the .25 acp breech plug Conversion.

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Old 01-26-2009, 01:57 PM
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The issue with 209's is that they say they are so powerful that they start movement of the round before ignition of the charge. This in turn they say leads to inconsistent groups. I personally have not found this to be the case or if it is it is so small that the average to even above average shooter will not notice it at all. I could see an issue if you are a match grade shooter but other than that it is industry hype. By the way I shoot modern ML's a lot.
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Old 01-26-2009, 04:34 PM
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i didnt have any problems with the 209 this year and kind of figured these were a money gimmick.i think ill just stay with the 209 for now.
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Old 02-02-2009, 06:29 PM
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personally I shoot with 209's. But my father-in-law swears by the caps. He hunts in all weather and has never had a hangfire in over twenty years of hunting with a ML. personal choice I guess.
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Old 02-02-2009, 08:17 PM
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As wmi states the difference in results is only concerning to competitive shooters. I ran a series of tests last year between std win 209, Win-ML 209 and the 25 ACP and the variation between groupings was next to none. I only ran the test on tight fitting sabots with a regemented cleaing process between shots. I suspect that groups would open up more on looser fitting sabots. All in all save your money unless your a perfectionist.
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Old 05-18-2009, 02:03 PM
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Default 25 acp breech plug I can help !!!!

Hello deerdude. If you go to E Arthur Brown web site you will get the desired info you are looking for. In short you can purchase this special breech plug that hold a 25 acp casing that is primed with a small rifle primer. I believe you get 6 casings and the special breech plug for 59.00. These guys at EABCO share a lot of their knowledge to the consumer. So check it out, we can all save some money through knowledge of those who have time tested and tested...................... so muzzle loader shooters can squeeze out more consistent accuracy Have fun!!!!! Leftymaddawg
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:03 PM
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and all this time I thought flint was high tech!
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been thinkin about switching over to one of these ,anyone out there use one ? can you tell any difference? i dont know whether to beleive the hype about the 209 primers being too much bang or not .would rather hear from some guys who have made the switch and get the real story.
I converted my TC Omega before season last year and the results have been outstanding. The .25 primers (brass has to be reloaded with small rifle primers) are tremendously faster and hotter than 209 primers. If you wanted to put it in a word I'd call them "crisp". At the same time I went to White Hotz pellets as well. The end result is at least 50% les smoke at discharge and 50% less residue/fouling. Shooting 209 primers and Pyrodex (150 grains) I can fire 11 shots out of my Omega before I have to swab and clean. With .25 primers and White Hotz (I get the same performance out of 100 grains Hotz vs. 150 Pyrodex) I've fired 25 shots and still didn't need to clean and swab. So personally and professionally I definitely recommend the .25ACP primersot mentioning that they are much easier to handle and place the 209's. In fact I've already done 8 conversions and expect several more prior to the October Muzzleload season this year. In fact I have a special ongoing to clean, service, check optics alignment and do the .25ACP conversion for $150.00 right now.

Hope the info helps,
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