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muzzlocity 08-31-2008 11:58 AM

What happened?
 
Hi, I'm new to this forum and relatively new to muzzleloader hunting. I bought a T/C Triumph last year and had excellent luck with both the gun and hunting last year. This year I went to the range to make sure the gun was sighted in and it's printing holes all over the place. I hadn't changed a thing as after my hunting last year I cleaned the gun and applied bore butter for storage and cleaned the barrel before loading and shooting. Using the same loads and same everything it will sometimes group two shots and the next two, three or four shots will be 6' high, low, left or right. Shot around 15 to 20 shots and I'm at a loss and frustrated as I'm booked for a Kansas hunt at the end of September. Any suggestions?

ronn 08-31-2008 12:29 PM

try brand new powder or pellets. which and what type are you shooting? a friend of mine had that problem with the lose pyrodex and he just needed a new batch. then right back in there.

muzzlocity 08-31-2008 02:15 PM

Well that's one thing I didn't try yet. I just got a new batch as I was running low on the original batch.Hope to get to the range this coming week.

buckfever 08-31-2008 02:18 PM

What bullets?

muzzlocity 08-31-2008 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by buckfever (Post 17016)
What bullets?

I'm using 250 gr. Shock Wave Super Glides and 100 gr. of Triple Seven pellets with Winchester W209 shotshell primers. Had very tight groups with this last year.

buckfever 08-31-2008 02:29 PM

I use the shockwaves too..

Maybe the powder will fix it. The bullet is seating in the same spot each time right? If it is I dont know. You seem like your keeping it clean. Are you swabbing the barrell between shots? Im just throwing ideas out there that maybe you havent thought of. Hopefully we can figure it out.

ronn 08-31-2008 02:31 PM

check all the screws as well but i'll bet its the powder but only 25 cents. and welcome to the forum. as you may have noticed there is no lack of sharing opinions and thoughts. jump in anywhere anytime.

muzzlocity 08-31-2008 03:27 PM

Thanks for the Welcome! Yes I'm swabbing the barrel between shots.....in fact I wonder if I'm over doing it if that's possible. I'm kinda of anal to having a clean barrel between shots as last year I was doing that with tremendous results. It's probably the the gun but I was impressed so I didn't want to change a thing. I did check all the screws on the scope mounts and base and things seem good there. I did notice a tiny bit of play on the hinge area between the barrel and the rear of the gun when broke open, but again it was so negligible that it could be nothing. I tightened the one screw about one full turn and the other was tight. I hope the powder will fix it.

Hunting Man 08-31-2008 04:49 PM

I'll add the same welcome. I don't have much to add on the shoot-in problem as I don't use pellets. My TC firehawk wont shoot them as only one pellet goes off. I assume that your on a good solid rest with no foward hand pressure torking the stock. You are probably correct on the over cleaning especially if you use any kind of liquid between shots that might partially wet a pellet. I run a copper brush after two shots then shoot two more ect. Otherwise, everyone else has pretty much covered it. Good luck!

muzzlocity 08-31-2008 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hunting Man (Post 17026)
I'll add the same welcome. I'll don't have much to add on the shoot-in problem as I don't use pellets. My TC firehawk wont shoot them as only one pellet goes off. I assume that your on a good solid rest with no foward hand pressure torking the stock. You are probably correct on the over cleaning especially if you use any kind of liquid between shots that might partially wet a pellet. I run a copper brush after two shots then shoot two more ect. Otherwise, everyone else has pretty much covered it. Good luck!

I do use wet patches but follow up with dry ones until the the dry ones come out clean but maybe there's moisture left on the face of the breech. I'll check that next time. I'm fairly confident with my shooting rest (sand bags) and position as I don't think I changed any of that from last year.
Thanks again Hunting Man for the welcome.


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