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Old 12-17-2012, 08:08 PM
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Hey, I had a question about the cva headspace adjustment shims. I was under the impression that the purpose of these was to snug things up to you're primer and eliminate blowback & therefore keeping things cleaner. I was looking at the cva website today and it specifically said is not intended to reduce blowback, only to bring firing pin retainer flush with frame. So, what's the point. Mine works great without it, but if I could keep it cleaner, I wouldn't hesitate to get one. Worth a try for the price, but I don't want to waste my time if it's not going to do anything. Thanks.
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:03 PM
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Yeah they dont like us doing that due to the fact that if you adjust it to much and slam the gun shut, it will in fact go off. Keep it simple, adjust for only the brand of primer you start with and strictly use that.

It will stop the blow by solid as shown in the video
CVA Firing Pin Bushing Shim Kit - YouTube

If you'd like to make it easier on you but a little more up keep, try the metric O rings. The code # you need is on the picture.

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Old 12-18-2012, 06:45 AM
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This moderator does NOT promote or support ANY advice from FrontierGander.

Anyone who takes and uses advice, that frontiergander offers, either to alter or supposedly improve on,
the functionality of a weapon, could be putting themselves in harms way possibly even costing them their own lives.

Anyone can clearly read it in his own words in the post above this post.



MY ADVISE, ALWAYS contact the company that manufactured the weapon,
not some yahoo on the internet that thinks he knows what he's doing.

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Old 12-18-2012, 10:51 AM
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We have discussed, in the recent past, that certain modifications to firearms puts one's self in great danger. I really do not understand statements like if you shim too far the gun will fire upon closing! CVA or any other maker simply has to fix under warranty any issues with their products. My TC Triumph will not close the action when using Winchester primers. CCI and Remington are fine. So I do not machine the breach plug or anything to alter the gun just use what is safe to use. FG does a lot of shooting of muzzleloaders, and knows CVA products, his experiments are his only and should not be followed by readers of this site. I wonder what would happen, in a court of law, following a liability injury lawsuit, stemming from the altering of a firearm from information gathered on a web site, who would be held liable? Is CVA condoning the shimming, even supplying the shims or o-rings and a mishap occurs, I wouldn't want to defend them in a court. First question: did you know there was a problem, second question, why didn't you do a full recall and fix the problem. Third question: How do you wish to make payments, monthly, quarterly, one lump sum? Folks, the simple answer is jerry rig a firearm too many bad things can happen.
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Old 12-18-2012, 01:12 PM
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A man has to know his limits and apparently firearm upgrades and tuning is out of a couple persons abilities.

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Old 12-18-2012, 08:37 PM
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didn't mean for anyone to freak out or get in trouble. I figured since it's a cva product, it should be legit and not hillbillie gunsmithing. I was just wanting to clearify it's purpose since the website is kind of contradicting itself. I do understand that from a liability standpoint this site can't give gunsmithing advise, just the type of society we live in today. I didn't think of that before I asked the question, sorry if I got anyone in trouble.

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Old 12-18-2012, 09:32 PM
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I would just send it to CVA under warranty if you think it needs repaired or adjusted as others have said just be safe. Hillbillie gunsmithing sorry but that's funny I'm a Thompson Center arms co fan myself not so much of a CVA fan. When you said that I just got a image of a Spanish Hillbillie stuck in my head due to the guns coming from Spain with a hammer a 4x4 of american cedar wood 2 nails & a tube of epoxy I really hope they are not building em this way but yeah in todays world who knows. Hope you get it all worked out.

Just my .02 cents but CVA contradicting itself is quite often. For legit as it can get look to a Co based in the usa that make the guns here. TC Knight Savage are just a few. There lower end models most always outperform the high end imports. Bruce & Hunting man give sound advice & are very knowledgeable. I respect them for caring about the sport & safety of others. Happy hunting & Live to Hunt another day. MWP
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:36 AM
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no real reason to send it back for repair, it works great, I was just being lazy and wanted to spend less time cleaning it. since you brought up TC, I had a question. Anyone have an impact? I was thinking about getting one for my kids to go deer hunting with me, since they have an adjustable stock. Also, what would be a minimum load recoil-wise but still ethically kill a deer at 50 yds, maybe 100yds max.
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:51 AM
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I have several TC BP rifles but have no knowledge of the impact model. I would imagine that it should be a great starter rifle for anyone including wife and kids. The Fire Hawk, Triumph, Omega, and PA Hunter I have are all top quality as one would expect from TC. For kids I'd start with something like 70 grains of loose powder, I prefer Black Horn. I do not use or like pellets. As long as the accuracy of the rifle is good, this should be plenty to harvest deer. I'm glad that most here realize that modifications to firearms can be dangerous and may in fact void any warranty coverage for damage or liability issues. I'm not going to trash CVA nor any other ML maker. I lean more to TC products because over the last 25 years or so they have provided me with quality products for the money. Traditions has come a long way lately and I like the look/feel of their top models.
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