i baught a pair from sportsmans guide several years back they work fine.anything that tear through neoprene will probably tear thru you so watch out.they sell some from cabelas that have hard rubber over the neoprene might want to check them out
Now therefore take, I pray thee, thy weapons, thy quiver and thy bow, and go out to the field, and take me some venison.
Genesis 27:3 "The thinking deer hunter should mature through three phases during his hunting life. First phase, "I need to kill a deer." Second phase, I want to harvest a nice deer. And last phase, we must manage this resource so our children and their children can experience the grand tradition of good deer hunting." - Jim Slinsky