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hunt NH 12-04-2011 11:38 PM

Help me
 
interprit a few hunting regulations from my state. this is the exact wording under general rules.
it is illegal to....
>hunt with a fully automatic firearm. It is also illegal to hunt with a semmi-automatic rifle with a clip or maggazen holding more than five cartrages (exept rimfire rifles and pistols);

>use full-jacketed metal case bullets;


reasoning for me wanting help interpriting these rules. im strongly consitering activly hunting coyotte, and plan on using my AR to do so. the fully automatic thing is a non issue. only reason i put it in there was for exact wording of this rule.the first rule has two parts i question wether my interpritation is correct. the general belef (to my knolage) is that the mag cant be bigger than a 5 rounder. my interpritation of this is that i can use one of my 30 round mags as long as i dont have more than 5 rounds in it. i also interprit it that i can have one in the pipe, and 5 in the mag for a total of 6 (in the gun, but only 5 in the mag)
do you guys read into this the same way i do?

also the second rule. this one is not an interpritation, its a right or wrong answer. is a jacketed hollow point a FMJ?

Predator 12-04-2011 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hunt NH (Post 64187)
interprit a few hunting regulations from my state. this is the exact wording under general rules.
it is illegal to....
>hunt with a fully automatic firearm. It is also illegal to hunt with a semmi-automatic rifle with a clip or maggazen holding more than five cartrages (exept rimfire rifles and pistols);

>use full-jacketed metal case bullets;


reasoning for me wanting help interpriting these rules. im strongly consitering activly hunting coyotte, and plan on using my AR to do so. the fully automatic thing is a non issue. only reason i put it in there was for exact wording of this rule.the first rule has two parts i question wether my interpritation is correct. the general belef (to my knolage) is that the mag cant be bigger than a 5 rounder. my interpritation of this is that i can use one of my 30 round mags as long as i dont have more than 5 rounds in it. i also interprit it that i can have one in the pipe, and 5 in the mag for a total of 6 (in the gun, but only 5 in the mag)
do you guys read into this the same way i do?

also the second rule. this one is not an interpritation, its a right or wrong answer. is a jacketed hollow point a FMJ?

No and NO
the magizine can only be capable of holding a max of 5 rds and full metal jackets extent to the tip completely.

Crawdaddy 12-04-2011 11:52 PM

Ditto, doesn'tt look like you can. In my state coyotes are not game animals and not subject to any rules regarding mag capacity or firearm type. Might want to check that in your state.

Predator 12-04-2011 11:54 PM

now if you can find one somewhere, a blocking mechanism that can be inserted into the 30round magazine that cannot be added and or removed without extensive dis-assembly could possibly be used. its like shotgun restrictions for 2 in the tube and 1 in the chamber.

In Illinois, and I will post the rules pertaining to coyotes . they are open game with almost absolutly no restrictions.

hunt NH 12-04-2011 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predator (Post 64188)
No and NO
the magizine can only be capable of holding a max of 5 rds and full metal jackets extent to the tip completely.

the second no. no a jaketed hollow point is not a FMJ? or no i can not hunt with the jacketed hollow point?

Predator 12-05-2011 12:18 AM

a jacketed hollow point is NOT a full metal jacket. full metal jackets do not expand and are generally used in military applications.
as matter of fact mil surplus ammo is generally designated as FMJ.

Predator 12-05-2011 12:26 AM

 Coyotes can be hunted 24 hours a day
from 1/2 hour before sunrise on November
10 through 12 midnight on February
15 and electronic calling devices may be
used at night as well during this period.
During the rest of the year hunting hours
for coyotes are 1/2 hour before sunrise to
1/2 hour after sunset.
 Hunters need a hunting license and habitat
stamp unless exempt (Illinois no
longer has a "furbearer stamp").
 Coyotes may be hunted on private property
using dogs, archery devices, any type
and caliber of handgun, any type of legal
rifle including large capacity semi-automatic
rifles, and shotguns using any type
of shell except for slugs (note... there are
exceptions for slugs during the firearm
deer seasons when coyote hunting is
closed except to deer hunters with unfilled
firearm deer permits in their possession).
When hunting with a shotgun,
make sure that the magazine has been fitted
with a plug which makes the shotgun
incapable of firing more than three consecutive
shots.
 Electronic calling devices are legal for
coyote hunting.
 It is legal to bait coyotes as long as any
wild game that is used was legally taken .
 Illinois does not restrict the type of sights
or scopes that are used (including laser
sights and night vision scopes).
 Lights with any color of lense can be used
while hunting coyotes as long as the
lights are not used from any vehicle or
conveyance (including
ATVs and horses)
and as long as the lights
are not connected to the
vehicle or conveyance.
 Even though a coyote hunter can't be
charged under the Wildlife Code if his
dogs get away from him and go onto
property without the landowner's permission,
the coyote hunter DOES NOT
have the legal right to follow the dogs
onto the property without landowner permission.
Hunters should keep in mind
that Illinois Animal Control Laws or other
local animal control ordinances could
apply to dogs running at large.
 Coyote hunters are required to keep their
guns unloaded and in a case while in a
vehicle or on a conveyance (including but
not limited to ATVs and horseback) unless
exempt by special Department permit
.
 Guns must remain unloaded until the
hunter is clear of the road as well as the
right of way alongside the road.
 Coyote hunters must wear 400 square
inches of solid blaze orange when hunting
in a county when there is any firearm
deer season in progress including youth
seasons, muzzle loader-only, late-winter,
and CWD seasons.
 Before coyote hunting at public hunting
areas, check with the site office for site
specific regulations.
 It is now legal to hunt coyotes while using
or possessing a tree climbing device.
An occasional wolf may disperse from the northern states of Wisconsin and
Minnesota into Illinois. These wolves pose no threat to humans or domestic
animals. To avoid mistakes while hunting in Illinois you should:
 Learn the difference between wolves and coyotes.
 Report observations of wolves to the IDNR (photos and video encouraged).
 Report any harassment, take, and/or capture of wolves.
Please report wolf information to:
Illinois Department of Natural Resources
Endangered Species Program
One Natural Resources Way, Springfield, IL 62702
phone: (217)782-6384 • e-mail: endspec@illinois.gov
Wolf: 4.5-6.5’ length; 60-155 lbs. Coyote: 3.5-4.5’ length; 20-45 lbs.
Wolf and Coyote tracks illustrations
courtesy of Michigan DNR
DON’T SHOOT A WOLF!
Wolves are a Federal and State Endangered Species and Fully Protected by Law
COYOTE HUNTING IN ILLINOIS
Bait means any bait composed of mammal,
bird or fish flesh, fur, hide, entrails or feathers.
NOTE: Leghold traps set on land may not
be placed around exposed bait such as animal
carcasses.
Beaver, Badger, Weasel, Mink and
Muskrat — Trapping Only
It is unlawful to take beaver, badger, weasel,
mink or muskrat except by trapping.
Trapping Near Dwellings
It is unlawful to trap within 100 yards of an inhabited
dwelling without first obtaining permission
from the owner or tenant.
Written Authorization to Handle
Traps of Another Person
It is unlawful to remove furbearing mammals
from, or to move or disturb in any manner, the
traps owned by another person without written
authorization of the owner to do so.
Permission from Landowner
Required to Trap
It is unlawful to trap furbearers on another person’s
property without his or her permission.
NOTE: This includes waters flowing over or
standing on the land of another person.
Damaging Property While Trapping
It is unlawful to destroy or damage another person’s
property while trapping on his or her land.
Possession of Green Hides
It is unlawful to possess green hides before
the season begins or longer than 20 days
after the season closes.
Rabbits and Squirrel Cannot Be Trapped
It is unlawful to trap any wildlife except
furbearing mammals (see definition on page
9) and woodchucks. NOTE: It is unlawful to
trap rabbits, squirrels, deer and protected
birds (see page 6).
Furbearer Trapping Reporting Requirements
Every person trapping furbearing mammals
shall make a report to the Department, upon
blank forms supplied by the Department, of
all furbearing mammals trapped and sold during
the open season. NOTE: Normally, report
forms are mailed only to a random sample
of trappers that includes approximately
20 percent of all individuals licensed. If you
do not receive a report form/questionnaire
directly from the Department after the regular
trapping season, you are not required to submit
a report of your catch.
Fur-bearing Mammals Breeder Permits
Persons who, within the State of Illinois,
holds, possesses or engages in the breeding
or raising of live furbearing mammals protected
by the Wildlife Code, must have a valid
Fur-bearing Mammal Breeder Permit. No
permits will be issued for the breeding or raising
of striped skunks or for coyotes.
Fur-bearing mammal breeders shall keep a
record for 2 years from the date of acquisition,
sale or other disposition of each live furbearing
mammal or its green hide so raised
or propagated (contact IDNR for more specific
regulations dealing with possession of
live fur-bearing animals under Chapter 520
5/3.25 of the Wildlife Code).
A Special Note to Beaver Trappers
For tips on avoiding the accidental capture of
river otters, contact: Illinois DNR, Division of
Wildlife Resources, One Natural Resources
Way, Springfield, IL 62702-1271; Phone:
(217) 782-6384.

Predator 12-05-2011 12:34 AM

if I am not mistaken, I believe the AR15's 10rd mag comes with a 5 rd block installed to make it legal for hunting.

hunt NH 12-05-2011 12:39 AM

i know i can get my hands on one. or i could just alter one of my 30 rounders if need be

gfdeputy2 12-05-2011 06:07 AM

HuntNH They are correct I had to check with the state of NH into this reguarding my daughters mini 30
the mag has to be capable of holding 5 or less rounds (grey area I did not want to get into putting a plug so the mag will only hold 5 rounds)
as far as the FMJ's they have to be soft points hollow point's I was told in the State of NH they are considered FMJ's


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